How e-cigarettes can reduce the harm caused by smoking
This month is Stoptober, a £6m Department of Health campaign to help people to quit smoking within 28 days. Health experts believe that if they can achieve that they are five times more likely to quit the habit for good.
Persuading people to stop smoking is what anti-tobacco groups describe as the holy grail. Yet next week, there will be what amounts to an official acknowledgment that sometimes it is simply impossible to persuade some smokers to quit so, instead, there needs to be harm reduction.
The ‘nudge’ approach, which the government promotes as an effective method of changing people’s behaviour. The National Institute of Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) will publish draft guidance on harm reduction and will evaluate the use of pharmaceutical products, like zyban, that are licensed to help people cut down, behavioural support and counselling, self-help techniques and nicotine-replacement products, including nicotine patches and electronic cigarettes.

The aim of the guidance will be to look at the implications of using such things nicotine replacement products long term and how stop smoking services might play a part in delivering them to smokers. All of which is based on the perfectly sound, scientific premise that nicotine itself, while addictive, does not actually cause cancer and that it can help people in the long-term wean themselves off tobacco.
Growing interest
Figures show that 67 per cent of smokers want to stop and that and that 75 per cent have tried to quit. Professor Gerry Stimson, who was one of the founders of harm reduction and runs Knowledge-Action-Change, said that he believes the solution for dealing with tobacco “is staring us in the face”.
In a recent lecture he said: “Those who are unable or unwilling to quit need to shift to safer nicotine products. Public health needs to catch up.”
Certainly, the popularity of e-cigs is increasing. According to Action on Smoking and Tobacco (ASH), the proportion of smokers currently using e-cigarettes has more than doubled from 3 per cent in 2010 to 7 per cent in 2012, which they estimate is between 650,000 and 700,000 smokers in Great Britain. Even higher were the figures for those who have ever tried an e-cig. In 2010, it was nine per cent of smokers. By this year it had risen to 22 per cent and the World Health Organisation believes it will reach one million by next year.
Although the NICE guidance is not expected to concentrate on e-cigs, there is growing interest in this means of ‘nictoine delivery’.
E-cigs are a means of inhaling pure nicotine in a vapour. The device heats up the nicotine, which can be refilled. Apart from anything it is cost-effective. The start-up cost of the two electronic devices is about £75 and the phials of nictoine are about £5 but they hold the equivalent of about 200 cigarettes. So for a heavy smoker, savings can be made within 10 days to two weeks.
Tiramisu-flavoured tobacco
Just off the high street in Rugby is one of the country’s first e-cigarette shops, Smoke No Smoke. On a recent grey, chilly Monday we visited the shop and in the space of the 90 minutes we were there more than a dozen people came in either wanting to try them for the first time or asking for refills, which come in a variety of flavours including espresso, tiramisu and straight-forward tobacco.
They were all ages of adults, too, determined to cut down or give up and many of them had either tried a friend’s e-cig or had been tipped off about their shop by their GP or the local hospital. One woman who came in for a refill had been smoking 40 a day for 20 years and had not had a cigarette for five months.
Jim Lacey, who runs the shop and has a franchise to open a number of others, said that since he opened in January he has been getting about 130 customers a week. Mr Lacey said they are coming in for a variety of reasons: they either want to stop smoking and nothing else has worked or they want to reduce their nicotine intake or they have smoking-related health problems.
The problem for enthusiasts of e-cigarettes is that they are not regulated. The Medicines Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has not licensed them although next year will begin the discussion on what should be regulated and how they can be regulated. It could be, for instance, that it is ‘light touch’ regulation which means they could be sold in corner shops. But it also means that if they are licensed, they can then be prescribed by doctors.
Legitimacy
And even tobacco manufacturers are showing interest. One large company has several patent applications in the pipeline while another apparently even has a harm reduction division, carrying with it all the hallmarks of ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’.
Next month, too, the WHO’s convention on tobacco control is to discuss the impact of e-cigs. They will consider whether they contravene WHO rules on tobacco control which prohibits promotion of smoking products and if they indeed give these products a level of legitimacy if they are regulated rather than banned. On the other hand, they say, regulating them would at least mean they could be treated like other medical products.
Next Monday and Tuesday delegates will converge in London for City Health 2012 – an international conference to look at policy and practice in relation to public health in cities.
And while the conference papers will largely centre on drug and alcohol use, one of the speakers will specifically look at this issue. The abstract even states: “The greatest emerging, but still largely untapped, public health movement in western nations is tobacco harm reduction (THR), the substitution of low-risk tobacco and nicotine products for smoking. ”
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Victoria,
Tobacco companies are the biggest and most evil legalised drug dealers in the world. They wreck more lives and cost society more money than any number of illegal drug dealers.
As a start, taxation could be quadrupled on this malevolent business. Then the tobacco companies could be forced to pay for all medical treatment incurred as a result of smoking their disgusting product. Then taxation should be quadrupled again. Then repeat the cycle until there is no profit in the filthy trade.
Sadly, it appears some humans will always have addictive tendencies even when the substance is lethal. But the addict shouldn’t be marginalised or isolated – those who finance and manufacture this excreta should be made to pay the full (and I do mean FULL) price for the damage they inflict and encourage.
I recommend a viewing of the Russell Crowe film “The Insider” for an expose of just how rotten to the core tobacco manufacturers are.
E-cigarettes were not invented by tobacco companies. They were invented by a Chinese pharmacist who could not stop smoking even after watching his father die of lung cancer. As the 2007 report from the Royal College of Physicians pointed out, some people will never be able to give up all use of nicotine because they are dependent on the beneficial effects: improved concentration, attention, memory, and mood. E-cigarettes are intended to be a replacement for smoked cigarettes, not a nicotine weaning method.
Nicotine doesn’t destroy the liver like alcohol, trigger violent irrational behavior like illegal drugs, or cause cardiovascular disease. Nicotine also does not cause the lung disease, heart attacks, strokes, and cancers that used to be accurately called “smoking-related” but which are currently being inaccurately referred to as “tobacco-related.”
These diseases are caused by inhaling the products of combustion: tar, carbon monoxide, particulates, and thousands of chemicals in smoke. How do we know that nicotine doesn’t cause the diseases? Decades of research on smokers that switched to snus, a type of moist snuff, has found no increase in rates of cancer, heart attacks, and strokes when compared with former smokers that stopped all use of tobacco and nicotine. And of course, since snus isn’t burned and produces no smoke, there is no lung disease associated with its use. More recent research in the US has found that the only type of smokeless tobacco that has (slightly) increased risk for cancer is dry snuff, which is not used very much any more. All other types have no increased risk for any type of cancer, nor for cardiovascular disease.
I didn’t learn about this until after I finally (after 45 years) stopped smoking by switching to an e-cigarette. Imagine how I felt when I found out that the FDA was trying to ban them. After that I started spending a lot of time on PubMed researching tobacco and nicotine. When I learned the facts about smokeless tobacco, I was outraged that many government agencies were doing their best to mislead the public about the relative risks of these products. If I had known the truth, I could have stopped smoking at least a decade ago, instead of only 3-1/2 years ago.
You haven’t actually stopped smoking your still puffing on these things, and I hope your a responsible smoker like most aren’t and not forcing others in your immediate environment from breathing the fumes from these e-cigarettes,
as the Jury is still out on these things.
So sad there is so much misinformation and outright truth distortion about ecigs. They have been tested and we know exactly what is in them. I had no intention of quitting combustible cigarettes,but purchased an ecig over 3 years ago. To my own surprise,I quit smoking combustible cigarettes and began using ecigs. I have not had a combustible cigarette in over 3 years. I would like to see more consistency in quality and refinement in the product and continued research. There are also many studies on the ecigarette concerning its effectiveness in helping committed smokers quitting the dangerous combustible cigarette and replacing it with ecigs,the levels of carcinogens(the same as in Pharma nicotine gum,patches,and inhalers–which have a terrible effectiveness rate,and the analysis of the exhaled vapor. The people who have the most to lose when ecigs are confirmed as an effective harm reduction product(probably 99% safer than combustible cigarettes) are the pharma companies who market the ineffective stop smoking products and the people who have made a career out of working for anti-smoking organizations and “health” non-profits that receive a great deal of money from Pharma companies.
You are recommending that we should watch “The Insider” and quadruple the taxation on e-cigs? I recommend you get your nose out of other peoples business, you fascist. Leave the market alone, It might well save some lives.
I have been following the industry and community of users (who refer to themselves as “vapers”) for about a year and a half now. The number of stories I hear about people switching to this method over smoking when all other cessation methods have failed is amazing (I am also one of those people). Yet, there continues to be efforts worldwide to stamp out harm reduction because of the mistaken notion that nicotine is the same thing as smoke. Given the abysmal success rate of traditional cessation, trying to eliminate harm reduction is essentially setting up smokers for failure.
Finally an unbiased factually correct article regarding e cigarettes. The sooner they are regulated the better because they will save many lives Im sure
Nice to see an article on e cigarettes that doesn’t dismiss them and make outrageous claims on the danger of using them. I have come across hundreds of people who have successfully switched over from tobacco and like your example above some have been able to stop smoking cigarettes immediately.
There is however still a big need to educate people in the choices they have for an alternative nicotine delivery device as many do still see e cigs as a ‘gimmick’.
I have been using electronic cigarettes since 2008 and they have stopped me smoking completely. It is important for people involved in health care to realise that just because e-cigs are enjoyable this does not make them an inferior form of nicotine therapy. I have tried Zyban in the past with unfortunate results – it brought on a very unpleasant depressive episode. E-cigarettes do not do this. It is important for GPs to be educated about this. A local GP told me that propylene glycol (a common ingredient in e-liquid) was “poisonous”. He may have been confusing itwith ethylene glycol (why?), but he is currently steering people away from e-cigs when he should be encouraging this form of smoking cessation.
15 October 2012
PHYSICIANS SHOULD INFORM THEIR PATIENTS OF RISKS OF ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES, SAYS WMA
Delegates at the World Medical Association General Assembly in Bangkok, Thailand agreed a new policy statement declaring that physicians should inform their patients about the risks of using electronic cigarettes. The statement said that quality control processes used to manufacture e-cigarettes were either substandard or non-existent and few studies had been done to analyse the level of nicotine delivered to the user and the composition of the vapour produced.
Dr. Haikerwal said: ‘Manufacturers and distributors mislead people into believing these devices are acceptable alternatives to scientifically proven cessation techniques. They are not. Unknown amounts of nicotine are delivered to the user, and the level of absorption is unclear, leading to potentially toxic levels of nicotine in the system.
‘There are better, proven safe ways to stop smoking. The safety effectiveness of e cigarettes has to be determined.’
While these e-cigs might suit some people they’re not for everyone. I’ve tried them and found within a couple of days that I’d developed a persistent and uncomfortable non-productive cough and a tight chest that affected my lung capacity. Stopped the e-cigs and the reactions stopped. There are plenty of people who’ve tried them and find they get the same kinds of reactions to them. They contain glycol, which some research suggests can trigger a reaction in some people.
Suzanne, did you go back to smoking when you quit the e-cigarettes or quit everything and the cough still went away immediately? It is very common to develop a cough when one quits smoking and the same thing is very common for people who quit smoking by switching to vaping. In both cases, the cough eventually fades away for most people.
From cancer.org:
“Those who have smoked regularly for a few weeks or longer will have withdrawal symptoms if they suddenly stop using tobacco or greatly reduce the amount they smoke. Symptoms usually start within a few hours of the last cigarette and peak about 2 to 3 days later when most of the nicotine and its by-products are out of the body. Withdrawal symptoms can last for a few days to up to several weeks. They will get better every day that you stay smoke-free.
Withdrawal symptoms can include any of the following:
Dizziness (which may only last 1 to 2 days after quitting)
Depression
Feelings of frustration, impatience, and anger
Anxiety
Irritability
Sleep disturbances, including having trouble falling asleep and staying asleep, and having bad dreams or even nightmares
Trouble concentrating
Restlessness or boredom
Headaches
Tiredness
Increased appetite
Weight gain
Constipation and gas
COUGH, dry mouth, sore throat, and nasal drip
Chest tightness
Slower heart rate”
Not surprisingly, people who are not aware of these common smoking cessation symptoms often mistakenly blame the e-cigarette, rather than the fact that they have also quit smoking. Most people who continue using the e-cigarette find that the symptoms go away – the same as if they had quit altogether. (One persistent side effect can be dry mouth, due to the drying properties of propylene glycol, So it is recommended users drink plenty of water.)
Hi
From an ex smoker of 20 years.
I have been using e cig as a means of quitting cigars, i will be coming up to 12 months without turning to the “stinkies”. I have not tried other means of nicotine replacement, however this approach deals with the craving and habit of smoking at the same time. There is great support from the forum i have joined who fave very supportive and independant advice. A real leap forward for any person looking to quit the habit. I will not return to smoking and now even hate the taste they give me.
Nicotine is far from harmless for individuals who have damaged their physiology through smoking tobacco. Indeed, nicotine can exacerbate underlining cardiovascular disease caused by smoking in the first place. We have no idea about the long-term effects of consuming nicotine and the low level of carcinogenic contaminants (from tobacco) typically detected in e-cigarettes. It would take decades years to know for sure. Sounds like a very risky experiment. And let’s not forget that nicotine is a highly addiction drug that consumes the freedom of its addicts. I’d argue, therefore, that e-cigarettes must be regulated and certainly prescribed by medical professionals; not commercially marketed by big tobacco, whose agenda is profit not public health. I can see clearly why big tobacco is interested in alternative nicotine delivery systems. For decades, research has shown how harmful smoking really is, again and again, and they know that combustible tobacco products are unacceptable in terms of public health. Therefore, unsustainable as a profitable business.
Ecigs are frightening the Pharmaceutical industry to death, as they are a far far safer option to quitters and no quitters alike. The US FDA has already said they should not be regulated as they are safe, but in Britain a huge amount of lobbying is taking place to get our HPA to take a different and the reason is quite simple.
Most Ecigs originate from China with country licenses already in place in most European and America. It is a huge market which will destroy BigD’s control over smoking cessation products. The thinking by said BigD is that the small manufacturers would not have the resources to undertake clinical trials and would then be forced out of the market place, to leave BigD to pick up the reigns.
The anti smoking lobby have given up the notion they are harmful and now fear their own funding would be cut so want these Ecigs regulated.
In the end it’s about big profits for BigD and jobs for the anti smoking organisation, little to do with caring about health.
The key things for me are they safe and will they help smokers stop smoking. The boxes have warnings such as handle with care, dangerous etc
Scientific research by leading institutions has shown that nicotine can stimulate angiogenesis and promote the growth of tumours.
Picking this report from the ASH daily news shot i was of course curious about the information around the e-cigarettes. From the little research available via the internet, most e-cigarettes are not the best for peoples health. Tests have shown that within 5 minutes of smoking an e-cigarette, it can cause restriction of the airways, so imagine what damage long term use of this equipment would lead to. Second, not too long ago ASH (Action against Smoking and Health) shoed a report from Florida where one gentleman was smoking an Ecigarette, which then exploded in his mouth, causing serious damage to his jaw and face. Don’t forget you are shoving something that is battery powered into your mouth. Third, to create the ‘smoke effect’ some of the manufactured E Cigarettes contain dyethilene glycol (more commonly known as anti freeze), again a poisonous substance. One report mentioned the fact that the liquid nicotine contained known carcinogens. Not content with just taking information from the Net – i approached one of the ecigarette stalls in my home town and spoke to the advisor on the stall, when challenged about the above, he was rather rude and presumed that I did not know what dyethilene glycol was, until i told him, and then when challenged about the fact that the liquid contained carcinogens, his reply was “Yes – but not many”. I would encourage anyone who is considering using these devices to do their research first, before buying into them. thank you
They do NOT contain diethylene glycol. They can contain propylene glycol (safe) – but it is quite normal to use a liquid which is wholly glycerine based. This also produces significantly more vapour.
Yes Amanda it is essential that people do research, there is a vast amount of info on e-cigs on the web.
1 It is propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine not Dyethilene glycol in e-cigs.
2 Street venders are sales people and from my and many others experience have very little knowledge of the product as they are operating a franchise.
3 The incident in Florida was caused by an inexperienced guy trying to build his own ecig and used ordinary batteries instead of protected ones.
4 It was proven that the restricted airways, can be caused by any type of inhalation of fumes and that the restriction caused by an e-cig was far less than that of tobacco, barbecues and traffic fumes.
E-Cigarettes do NOT contain anti-freeze. (dyethilene glycol) They contain Vegetable Glycerine or Propylene Glycol or combinations of both. Both of which are used in many medical devices, such as athsma inhalers. Both are proven safe for inhalation.
Please do your research before posting ill-informed comments such as this one. Thanks.
I agree. Do your evidence based research first before scare tactics!! I don’t care- I don’t get out of breath, I feel healthier and most importantly they starve the uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. And they are saving me a fortune!! Sorry Mr Cameron I have lost you some tax on ciggies! That is all.
Unfortunately, Amanda has gotten many of her facts wrong or did not understand what actually happened.
1) I was a cigarette smoker for over 40 years, avg about 2 packs per day. Luckily I did not get cancer and have no lung or heart issues due to it. I tried quitting multiple times over the years using every product imaginable – hypnosis, patches, chantrix, etc.
2) I have neurogenic bradycardia, which is essentially a disconnect between my brain and nervous system and my heart and vascular system. To keep my heart rate UP and blood pressure UP requires some form of stimulant. My choices were amphetamines or a combination of nicotine and caffeine. The second two seemed more logical than the first. I am not a candidate for pacemakers and the only prescription drug available for this condition almost killed me.
3) I live in Florida, as to the gentleman who had his e-cig explode (it did with considerable injury), what Amanda failed to either realize or comment on was that the actual battery he was using he had MODIFIED himself to allow it to provide far more power than designed. This was NOT a standard battery, but something he rigged up at his house.
4) The use of “anti-freeze” came from a test from a single, non-reputable company. Yes, they did it, but there has not been a single incident or test from ANY other company over the past 4-5 years (other than that one company) that contains anything other than propylene-glycol or vegetable glycerine. Both being safe substances and both which I can almost guarantee Amanda uses on a daily basis without knowing it.
5) Nicotine is addictive, that is a given. But it has NEVER been shown to cause any cancers.
6) PG (propylene-glycol) can definitely cause a coughing attack. That is why many “vapers” prefer to mix PG with VG to reduce or eliminate this symptom.
7) I am one of the many that make my own liquid. I purchase only USP, food grade and (not kidding here) KOSHER, PG and VG. I mix mine at a 75% PG to 25%VG solution. I purchase these liquids from a certified and inspected FDA medical facility in Florida. I have found the nicotine level that works best for me to keep the old ticker working to be at 11 mg/L. This is the approximate level of 1/2 of an ultra-light cigarette. The only other ingredient is USP, Food Grade, Kosher food flavorings. Why the “kosher” part? I’m not Jewish, but hey, if it meets those standards, then it must be pretty darn pure and come under some pretty strict scrutiny.
9) Using the e-cig allowed us to both easily quit analog cigarettes in a matter of 2 weeks, with no withdrawal. Since then, her blood pressure dropped to normal levels.
So before folks get on the band-wagon of “E Cigs Kill!” you should really understand the background. The exploding units (and there have been more than 1) are in almost every case a home-made, modified unit. Kind of like taking a junker Ford automobile, throwing it together without really knowing what you are doing, driving it down the highway at 100 mph and being surprised that it wrecked.
dave
P.s. my carbon levels now 0.
From a 25 year habit which can got up close to 40 a day, I’ve now been smoke free for nearly a month thanks to e-cigs.
And I wasn’t even really meaning to quit – I’d pretty much abandoned that effort after repeated failures. I just thought it might help me space out my smoking and cut down the ridiculous amount I was smoking.
These things are absolutely amazing. They are simply good enough that a smoker can switch to them without much more trouble than changing brands of cigarettes – that’s an exaggeration but not by much, they really are that good a substitute. No joke they have saved my life.
Yes I’m still a nicotine addict. Yes, as pointed out above, there may be some dangers associated with the nicotine or from repeated inhalation of the vapour. Yes there is not yet enough evidence. But FFS sake people. I was inhaling tobacco smoke 40 times a day and was set to carry on doing it until my early death. This cannot be as bad as that, it simply can’t be. People, especially health professionals, who are actively discouraging people from using electronic cigarettes should take a long hard look at what they are advising. There is a potential here to save millions of lives globally.
That really needed to be said. I have just ordered my first e-cig and agree it must be better for you than smoking regular cigarettes.
I started smoking when I was 14 years old. I have watched all my grandparents die from smoking at a very young age. Yet i am 34 and still smoking. My boyfriend and his brother quit on apollo ecigs so i thought i would give it a try. They taste great! I am 3 weeks smoke free. I just started a new professional job and didnt want to be the girl who smells like smoke – not to mention i am starting to see the affects of smoking on my appearance. My 7 year old son was begging me to quit and honestly i was sick and tired of cigarettes controlling my day. I can go anywhere and smoke it and i have referred apollo to several friends who have now quit smoking too! It has changed my life and i look forward to being able to hike again and enjoy nature! Thank you Apollo for saving me from a miserable and always feeling sick life! You are doing wonders in peoples lives and you just keep coming out new and improved products! and i have lost weight! woohoo!
Thank you so much
Mollie Schneide
The comments raised are important and as a contributor to the news item I would like to add to this discussion.
The UK continues to nudge people away from smoking, but in England around 20 per cent of adults smoke, down from 30% in 1991 twenty years ago. Despite new anti-smoking initiatives such as bans on shop displays, and the consultation on plain packaging, the government has only a modest aim to reduce smoking to 18 % by 2015. Realistically, a 0.5% annual decrease might be achieved, but it would still take 20 years to cut smoking to 10%, during which time large numbers of people will have serious illnesses or die from smoking. No country has got smoking prevalence below about 16 or 17% (except Sweden, where snus is the nicotine of choice for men).
We must offer alternatives to a ‘quit or die’ approach to smoking. The end game must surely be about getting people off smoking tobacco and a harm reduction approach may well be the answer. Tobacco harm reduction is targeted at (a) people who do not wish to quit smoking altogether – they may wish to cut down, or cut down as a stepping stone to quitting, and (b) people who want to quit smoking, but are unable or unwilling to quit using nicotine.
Nicotine is addictive, but the scientific evidence is that pure nicotine, does not pose a significant health risk in the short to medium term whether it is used as a substitute for, or in combination with, cigarettes. Quality control of e-cigarettes is important, but that is an issue that can be fairly easily addressed.
Let’s get rid of smoking first, that is the killer. People smoke for the nicotine, but die from the smoke. Tobacco harm reduction offers an alternative to quitting both smoking and nicotine. It accepts that many people will be unable or unwilling to give up nicotine, but that by separating smoking from nicotine reduces the health hazards.
Any way of using tobacco that does not involve smoking it is safer.
Nearly all devices of electronic cigarettes are the same. They key thing is the e-liquid that is inhaled. This is so important for the use of e-cigs. I only use ecopure e-liquid made by a UK company to medical standards.
I have been smoke free for 8 weeks now because of electronic cigarettes.
As a smoker of 45 years who had no intention to stop smoking, and who objects to being taxed and demonized for his chosen habit – which, when I started smoking, was quite a normal thing to do – I’d just like to say that I’ve been smoke-free for the past two weeks by using an e-cigarette.
I’ve tried other methods, not from a desire to quit but of social necessity. The drugs don’t work and nor do the nicotine patches, since they don’t replace the physical habit. Frankly I think e-cigs are brilliant. However, the last thing we need is some know-it-all government nanny-state thinking about regulation of what I consider to be a relatively harmless product.
I just reduced my intake of chemicals from 4,000-odd to a mere four: propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, nicotine and flavouring. The exhaled products have been scientifically proven to be totally harmless. I can still have my habit without even a hint of harming others. Enough, you can get off my back now.
My right to vape nicotine in lieu of smoking cigarettes is no different than my right to drink tea in lieu of drinking coffee. Rights that are in no way subject to the whims or desires of any man, save myself.
Having been a smoker for 51 years, I can vouch for e-cigs after many years of trying all the various methods to quit, it was the E-cig that worked for me, I am now 14 months Tobacco free, feel healthy and had no problems with withdrawal.True I still use nicotine but that is as dangerous as Caffine in the doses that the liquid contains.
love the few Fearmongering comments…First off people get your facts straight…the study finding trace quantities of DEG in ecig vapor also stated(in fine print) the TRACE quantities of DEG were so low as to be immeasurable…also the device tested that provided said DEG was a relatively unused POS device…most Vapers( yes thats what they are called) use MUCH higher quality devices…
as to the man whose device exploded..1) he built it himself and did not follow the most basic safety principles regarding Li-Ion batteries…it was a metal tube w no vents 2) supposedly(don’t quote me) but I also heard he was using batteries in the device he had just taken off the charger (from one of the early news reports)which is a big no no…with ANY batteries…
there are plenty of Electronic cigarette forums online that provide that information as well as allowing anyone to ask current users of the devices(some of which have done so for over 6 yrs) any questions pertaining to purchase, use, and yes even how to properly make your own..which do not necessarily need to use the Li-ion batteries (which do require special considerations)…cumon…the same comment about batteries in your face could apply to your cell phone…Yes same general type of battery…
Ecigs have helped a good many people kick the habit (including me a once 4+ pack a day smoker) its a shame people have to dismiss them out of hand simply because of the first models looking like a cigarette or because they involve the exhalation of vapor (not to be confused with smoke) or simple prejudice…lots of that going around no need to create more simply because you don’t like what you see…just don’t look then…I promise you unlike smokers we don’t stink up a room nor are we posing anywhere near the risk you get from simply standing on the streets of any big city…remember there is no combustion involved in an ecig…if there is they are doing it wrong…
I would encourage anyone who is considering giving up to use these devices and beware of scare stories from ignorant people.
It is very wearing constantly reading comments from people who advocate researching subjects but fail to do so thoroughly. The FDA claimed to find diethyline glycol on one sample at trace levels. They failed to mention that you will find the same chemical in toothpaste, mouthwash and cough medicines and that it is significantly less toxic than aspirin. Reputable manufacturers go to great lengths to ensure such contamination is avoided and many vendors analyse their product to ensure that their product is free of such contaminants. The cartridges tested were from an illegally imported shipment.
Traces of nitrosamines were also detected, the only carcinogen detected, but again at levels lower than one might find in beer, cheese, bacon and many vegetables, not to mention virtually every smoking cessation aid.
The scientist responsible for the “restricted airways” report failed to point out that high humidity levels would produce the same effect and that there was a significant conflict of interest, the study was funded and conducted in part by Pfizer, maker of Chantix, a drug which stands to lose considerable sales if electronic cigarettes become popular. The use of the word “antifreeze” willfully misleading. Ecigs use propylene glycol, also used as an antifreeze, but also as a propellant in asthma inhalers and as a food additive.
The exploding cigarette story was never fully reported, but it would appear that the device was a home-made “mod”, powered by stacked batteries, a combination avoided by ecig manufacturers and users unless the device is fitted with safety features. Bear in mind that the mobile phone held constantly close to the head by many contains the same kind of battery and there have been many instances of these failing, often dramatically. Laptop batteries have similarly burst into flames on occasions.
I would like to see more research, but no more of this biased scare-mongering.
Agreed. It’s really not too hard to find good information on electronic cigarettes. There are a number of forums jam packed full of useful information, links to studies and anecdotal evidence.
Surely it is Journalism 101 to trawl these sources for relevant information before writing pieces on the subject of E-Cigs. I’m not saying this article is bad (for the most part it’s pretty even-handed) what I am saying is that when journalists simply use other journalists’ work for their source of information, then a certain level of bias and factual inaccuracies appear. Spend a day on any one of the Electronic Cigarette forums out there and the truth becomes abundantly clear. Plus you will find that the E-Cig community are as keen to make sure that they aren’t harming themselves using this method of quitting smoking as the nanny government prohibitionists are.
The same goes for commenters like Amanda Godding. She states information which she believes to be true. Unfortunately, many of us who actually use E-Cigs know this information she is repeating parrot-style is either completely inaccurate or simply not the case. I have lost count how many times someone brings up either anti-freeze or the exploding cigarette man to somehow try and undermine what millions of us know already.
In both cases the evidence is either inconclusive or simply not there. Speculation is not fact. I’m bored of hearing these empty arguments.
Electronic cigarettes simply work. For literally millions of people worldwide. It’s high time governments and health organisations put some money into proper tests and clinical trials. Most e-cig users welcome regulation and standardisation. We are trying to improve our health. Not damage it further.
Bottom line is it’s not in the government’s (or big pharma’s) interest for us to actually give up smoking. Governments need the revenues from taxes and big pharma need us to continue buying their NRT products (Worth 2 billion a year)… Neither parties particularly care about our health. They do, however care about revenues.
The e-cigarette community do care about health. We are a grass-roots community with extensive support mechanisms already in place. Many of the major commercial players are conducting their own self-financed medical research (See the Flavourart Clearstream project). Bottom line is. Most of us who use E-Cigarettes want to improve our health. We don’t need the government (or Pharmaceutical companies) telling us how to do this. We aren’t stupid. We have our own support community thanks very much. It’s been in existence for a number of years and there is a wealth of information out there so people can make an informed choice. Again. We don’t need governments to help us do this. We are already doing it.
Time for people to stop playing catch up and get with the programme. E-Cigarettes aren’t going to go away. They are the future. This may be scary for the tax-man, cigarette companies and big pharma, but for those who use them daily, the article above doesn’t really tell us anything we don’t already know.
E ciggies work! I only started ‘vaping’ last week, but have only had a few real cigarettes since then. I have been a heavy smoker for over 20 years and thought I would never manage to give up. I now prefer the e ciggie and even feel better already. It would be truly awful if they were banned. Why is it that some of the anti smoking lobby never give up harrassing us nicotine addicts? What is the damage to them when it comes to us vaping? After all, many of us have spent a fortune on tax already.
The way I see it is, you are swapping over 500 harmful chemicals such as tar, tobacco and carbon monoxide for just 7 ingredients in an e-cig. Sure, nicotine is still present but with e-cigs there is no combustion, no additional chemicals are created. You’re simply vaping a liquid. There’s no smoke, just vapour. I would hope that e-cigs are not seen as a long term solution but simply a temporary measure to aid quitting smoking.
Mel
Very interesting subject, regards for putting up.
I recently was told i need to quit smoking for various reasons. My heart and my blood-pressure, those are serious problems. We just signed a lease on a new apt. that states no smoking! I am having virtual panic attacks over this. We have smoked cigs for 50 yrs now! How do we just say “I quit tomorrow’. Can these ecigs smell up a home or your clothes? Can they damage walls over time,scrub-a-dub is all i do.And they sound safer than cigs. I will try them! But, will i lose our new apt because of smoking ecigs? I am in a panic to quit by December1st.Heavy smokers all our lives. Can anyone give me words of wisdom and encouragememt??
Delores, if you have heart problems you should consult your GP first.
I’ve been using my vape (I hate saying e gig or electronic cigarette) for about 5 weeks now and my chest pains I’ve had for the past year have gone. They got worse before they went but I hear that’s normal even if you go cold turkey.
The trick is to get a good quality device and not one of the crappy little things designed to look like real cigarettes.
I agree with paul k stay away from look alike cigarettes there to exspencive and i found they dont work. My wife & myself have packed up now for just over 12 months we vape innokin produtes and find them realy good.thanks peter
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I bought Totally Wicked slimline ecigs. Get the USB charger, the 20ml liquid lasts 4 weeks. A p ack of 10 Benson and Hedges cost me £5.00 a day!! Hooray for ecigs, wish they’d been invented 30 years ago!! The initial outlay was £ 32.00. Simple, I don’t smoke cigarettes. Job done!
Very good review hope they see the light. keep vaping
The anti smoking arguments have unfortunately reached unrealistic levels and that is probably going to lead to increasing numbers of smokers as is happening in France. Reality is that nicotine provides benefits most smokers are fully aware of like reduced anxiety and stress, lower weight, faster reaction time and improved concentration.
Why even consider preventing people from continuing to enjoy those benefits providing nicotine, which is a heck of a lot less harmful than sugar, through a safe delivery system?
This New York Times article is, unlike the anti-smoking ‘quit or die’ approach to everything, is at least realistic, balanced and worth considering http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/science/e-cigarettes-help-smokers-quit-but-they-have-some-unlikely-critics.html?_r=0
As a smoker of 34 years (and not proud of it), I switched to e-cigs last Oct (2012). Previously I had tried hypnosis, nicotine patches and gum, Champix…all failed, BUT I found E-cigs were just brilliant! I had the hit I needed but without all the harmful chemicals and smoke that I know is bad for us. I didn’t suffer from cravings and felt I was ‘smoking’ far less than I normally would have done. I couldn’t believe how good these things were and why they weren’t being prescribed by the NHS (as they are cheaper than patches/gum etc and more effective)….until….after 3 weeks of being on them, I ended up in hospital with a pleural effusion (fluid on lung, result of chest infection – that I’m still not 100% convinced about as have had chest infection previously without this result). 3 months later I amd still ‘being investigated as lung hasn’t fully recovered and I’m hoping that the e-cigs haven’t contributed to my present condition (as I would be lost if I couldn’t use them!). I DO hope there will be more testing on them and they will become a regulated product as I am convinced they will help millions of people to have a better quality of life, BUT, at present, I do have some doubts that I hope the chest consultant I am now being referred to, can clear up for me. Bearing in mind my local GP hadn’t even heard of E-cigs, I feel doctors need to get more involved with them but I am including a link from the NHS for information for anyone interested as I thnk it’s vitally important that we know ALL the facts about these E-Cigs.
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2012/09September/Pages/E-cigarettes-may-damage-lungs.aspx
I look forward to hearing from anyone else who has has good/bad experience of these e-cigs and I REALLY hope they are proved to be a healthier option to tradtional smoking for those of us who can’t kick the habbit and found them to be really effective.
Lesley, for what it’s worth I suffered from a heavy chest infection when I last quit smoking, cold turkey, after 10 days.
25 years of age and smoking solidly for 10 years. Although I very much enjoy smoking and didn’t really want to quit…I watched my flat mate quit using e-cigs and it looked relitively easy. So after being pestered my the girlfriend for the last 2 years…I thought I best give it a try. Only 1 week in so far, but no problems, no cravings, infact I would say I prefer the e cig! No smell is a great plus when walking into the office after lunch! They are very good for replacing the routine habit cigarettes you would normally have.
The sooner some comprehensive, unbiased research is released the better! Would be a terrible shame to find out that there is an untoward cocktail of chemicals hidden within them, very doubtful though!
Reading some unfounded reviews online like “some doctors day e cigs can be just as harmful” is very frustrating! Which doctors,when, why?!! Smokers are pestered my the medical profession to quit, find something that works, and then have to read blasay slander about the product, give us a break, and hold tight until you actually have some tangible info!
I’ve been on a e cig since June I’ve felt loads healthier , but all these story’s there not safe are scareing me, I have a nasty cough at.the moment and I only get it at night , I had two hours sleep last night , and iam getting paranoid its the ecig , its changed my life wish people could give some facts instead of making people. Who don’t want to use real ones scared
History: smoker for 33 years
Previous attitude: yes, this will probably kill me, and I’m the only one in here stinking of fags now.. I wish I’d never started but the idea of giving up my private little joy is a no starter…
My common sense thinking: 4/5 chemicals is better than a purported 4000, 40 of which I believe are powerful carcinogens
Present situation: Haven’t smoked since around Christmas… I’m not even counting the days because that implies I’m running away from something and the more days that pass the further away I get, and the more pleased I can be with myself… I’m not pleased with myself, I’m seriously annoyed that I didn’t go down this path sooner, so I’m not counting up from the last day of my stupidity…
Around October 2012 I bought an across the counter electronic cigarette… it wasn’t great, but it got me thinking… here was something that I could ‘hold’, ‘something that I could ‘do’ when the need arose… I looked into it more, did my online research and decided to go up market but not too far…
After 3 days of thinking that the odd ‘real’ cigarette was a nice treat at the back door, I realised that it really wasn’t. I thought ‘Why freeze out here when the same is inside?’
A huge step in the right direction.
I’m still taking in nicotine, but I’m not damaging myself in the same way or to the same extent as I was when I was adding more glue and gunk to my lungs and the rest of my body.
Yes, I drink coffee, but not constantly all day. Yes, I drink alcohol, but not bottles of whisky every day. Yes, I eat red meat, but not 10 burgers for breakfast.
Yes, I take nicotine, but I don’t smoke…
Ive been a heavy smoker for 45yrs and have copd which means the cigs were slowly killing me, have had the e cigs for the last two weeks and find them brilliant, I feel so much better and nowhere near as breathless as I was, but I have a feeling that as they get more popular the government will try and ban them!!
New convert. 7 days. No tobacco. Fantastic product. After 30 years smoking of 30 a day, I try a Vape and feel almost instantly that the Marlboros are gone for good. And so it is proving thus far. Socialising holds no terror or challenge – if the need for nicotine pops up, a few e-puffs and it’s gone. They say that China doesn’t innovate? The respected gentleman who invented these things may have begun one of the greatest instruments of social change in recent times. However, there will be some very powerful people who will hate to see the success of these products. Watch their propaganda begin ……
I am at the end of my tether… I have smoked for 25 years and during that time I have promised myself everyday that ‘today I will quit’. I have read umpteen smoking cessation books, given up many times (for over six months on 3 occasions); but always seem to fall back into the trap. I am currently one of the most pathetic of creatures; a ‘secret smoker’ and so apart from the cost, smell, bad taste, headaches, nausea, fear of death, shortness of breath…etc; I have to run home and shower and change my clothes and hope that when my GF gets home she wont smell it (I was an ex-smoker when we met but have fallen back into the trap). I also dont want my six year old daughter to see me doing something that she has been told will kill her daddy. My life seems like a constant battle to escape from nicotine addiction and apart from an early death and bad health I may be faced with a failed relationship beforehand…the life of a cigarette smoker is not to be envied for any reason. So I have just ordered my first batch of e-cigs and have my fingers and toes crossed.
Having read a number of therapy books (never read one unless written by an ex smoker by the way); I feel I understand the psychology of the smoking trap very well…but even this isnt enough to overcome the ‘instinctual’ drive to smoke, which rather like sex, food and drinking comes from our primitive / survival part of the brain and is almost impossible to consistently say ‘no’ to.
I am fed up with the mind games I play with myself to keep myself smoking – anything that can help us nicotine addicts to regain our self esteem, confidence, health and freedom is worth a try…negligible risks be damned…its the e-cigs for me!!!!