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		<title>By: Dee Cattell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-10565</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Cattell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I should apologise for a spelling mistake on my last comment I posted on your site. I did not check my spelling of persuade, I wrote persued instead, I am sorry. I think the Gilmore Girls show, which will be missed, was refreshing and delightful. My best wishes to all the excellent cast, writers and producers. Hope to see you all very soon. Regards Dee Cattell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I should apologise for a spelling mistake on my last comment I posted on your site. I did not check my spelling of persuade, I wrote persued instead, I am sorry. I think the Gilmore Girls show, which will be missed, was refreshing and delightful. My best wishes to all the excellent cast, writers and producers. Hope to see you all very soon. Regards Dee Cattell</p>
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		<title>By: Madeleine York</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-10522</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear, oh dear, C4,
Why are you trailing poor Kev Bishop until he is blue in the face, particularly using clips of impressions he already did in the opening show of his series??? It&#039;s absurd. All this does is make us viewers think it&#039;s not worth watching any more episodes if his channel and producers clearly think he did his best impressions in episode 1! If I have to see the Gok Wan &#039;It&#039;s all about the confidence&#039; skit one more time, that&#039;s it, I&#039;m no longer a fan of Kevin, and it won&#039;t even be his fault!
Madeleine York</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear, oh dear, C4,<br />
Why are you trailing poor Kev Bishop until he is blue in the face, particularly using clips of impressions he already did in the opening show of his series??? It&#8217;s absurd. All this does is make us viewers think it&#8217;s not worth watching any more episodes if his channel and producers clearly think he did his best impressions in episode 1! If I have to see the Gok Wan &#8216;It&#8217;s all about the confidence&#8217; skit one more time, that&#8217;s it, I&#8217;m no longer a fan of Kevin, and it won&#8217;t even be his fault!<br />
Madeleine York</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Cattell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-10398</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Cattell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi e4,  I have enjoyed watching the Gilmore Girls, but I am so gutted that the programme has ended without any future plans.  It&#039;s been the best show for a long time. The cast have been well suited to their parts and the writer has put together a very good and true to life script.  Please try to persued them to do some more. Thanks to you all concerned.  Dee Cattell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi e4,  I have enjoyed watching the Gilmore Girls, but I am so gutted that the programme has ended without any future plans.  It&#8217;s been the best show for a long time. The cast have been well suited to their parts and the writer has put together a very good and true to life script.  Please try to persued them to do some more. Thanks to you all concerned.  Dee Cattell</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Stone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-10013</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still trying to square the stated intentions of the producers of tonight&#039;s How The Other Half Live with the pernicious rubbish I&#039;ve just watched - in no way does the programme &#039;aim to show just what it means to grow up in poverty in 21st Century Britiain&#039;! Instead, we get the now de-rigeur C4 &#039;emotional journey&#039; clap-trap, learning nothing about the struggles of the poor family, but rather dwelling on the valuable &#039;experience&#039; that the rich children were gaining by mixing with the lower orders. The less said about the various &#039;donations&#039;, the better.
Is it too much to ask that C4 would commission a serious documentary on poverty, or is there no topic which doesn&#039;t lend itself to the &#039;reality&#039; format?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still trying to square the stated intentions of the producers of tonight&#8217;s How The Other Half Live with the pernicious rubbish I&#8217;ve just watched &#8211; in no way does the programme &#8216;aim to show just what it means to grow up in poverty in 21st Century Britiain&#8217;! Instead, we get the now de-rigeur C4 &#8216;emotional journey&#8217; clap-trap, learning nothing about the struggles of the poor family, but rather dwelling on the valuable &#8216;experience&#8217; that the rich children were gaining by mixing with the lower orders. The less said about the various &#8216;donations&#8217;, the better.<br />
Is it too much to ask that C4 would commission a serious documentary on poverty, or is there no topic which doesn&#8217;t lend itself to the &#8216;reality&#8217; format?</p>
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		<title>By: david clark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-9898</link>
		<dc:creator>david clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  It was a total mess and Channel 4 should get their act togrther.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  It was a total mess and Channel 4 should get their act togrther.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie Jardine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-9869</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie Jardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see more Brookside episode listed on 4oD, at the moment there are 9 but only 7 are available to watch, Brookside was a large part of Channel 4 and the first episode was broadcast on the channels lauch night of 4 Nov 1982, I was born in 1982 so i didn&#039;t start watching it until i was 12, so i would like to see how the it all started.

I think it still an important program as it covered issue&#039;s no other TV channel would dare cover and watching these issue&#039;s unfold through storylines would be a great way to show people and fans how important it was and how Brookside changed soaps as they are today.

Brookside was a bench mark at the time and still is in many ways, it would be excellent if it made a come back after almost 6 years and show us how things have changed and portray newer and never before mentioned issues on screen as it did in the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s.

If this is not possible then i think all the episodes should be available for people to watch, i know 2915 episodes are alot but it would pay off in the end.

another suggestion would be to show Brookside on More 4 as this would be equally as great plus increase overall viewership for the channel and overall advertising revenues, that way both viewers and Channel 4 benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see more Brookside episode listed on 4oD, at the moment there are 9 but only 7 are available to watch, Brookside was a large part of Channel 4 and the first episode was broadcast on the channels lauch night of 4 Nov 1982, I was born in 1982 so i didn&#8217;t start watching it until i was 12, so i would like to see how the it all started.</p>
<p>I think it still an important program as it covered issue&#8217;s no other TV channel would dare cover and watching these issue&#8217;s unfold through storylines would be a great way to show people and fans how important it was and how Brookside changed soaps as they are today.</p>
<p>Brookside was a bench mark at the time and still is in many ways, it would be excellent if it made a come back after almost 6 years and show us how things have changed and portray newer and never before mentioned issues on screen as it did in the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If this is not possible then i think all the episodes should be available for people to watch, i know 2915 episodes are alot but it would pay off in the end.</p>
<p>another suggestion would be to show Brookside on More 4 as this would be equally as great plus increase overall viewership for the channel and overall advertising revenues, that way both viewers and Channel 4 benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: sally Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-9795</link>
		<dc:creator>sally Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Producers of THE SCANDULOUS ADVENTURES OF LORD BYRON . Was this just an excuse for the seemingly narcssistic Rupert Everett to display his overworked pectoral muscles at every opportunity? And why did he have to wear that vest? Did he lose his luggage en route to Turkey ??? (thank goodness the lovely M. Palin has more discretion in dress and content in his polished and informative series..  The Lord B programme was all about tacky sensationalism and Everett&#039;s obsession with Lord B&#039;s sexual preferences which did little to educate me on his other life- so preoccupied was Everett on pushing the porn and male prostitution to his viewers.Did we need to see the book of male penis&#039;- did it add anything to the programme ?and find it sad that the makers feel they have to add all this banal letchery to sell this programme . I also thought Everett was lacking in what it takes to put over this documentary . I was left with a very real impression that he and the cameraman were more interested in Everett&#039;s  face on the screen that the content of this programmme. I hope it improves after a sad start and we see less of Everett&#039;s pout which he obviously deems as sexy and please why start a programme with him in the bath -- !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Producers of THE SCANDULOUS ADVENTURES OF LORD BYRON . Was this just an excuse for the seemingly narcssistic Rupert Everett to display his overworked pectoral muscles at every opportunity? And why did he have to wear that vest? Did he lose his luggage en route to Turkey ??? (thank goodness the lovely M. Palin has more discretion in dress and content in his polished and informative series..  The Lord B programme was all about tacky sensationalism and Everett&#8217;s obsession with Lord B&#8217;s sexual preferences which did little to educate me on his other life- so preoccupied was Everett on pushing the porn and male prostitution to his viewers.Did we need to see the book of male penis&#8217;- did it add anything to the programme ?and find it sad that the makers feel they have to add all this banal letchery to sell this programme . I also thought Everett was lacking in what it takes to put over this documentary . I was left with a very real impression that he and the cameraman were more interested in Everett&#8217;s  face on the screen that the content of this programmme. I hope it improves after a sad start and we see less of Everett&#8217;s pout which he obviously deems as sexy and please why start a programme with him in the bath &#8212; !!!</p>
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		<title>By: valerie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-9793</link>
		<dc:creator>valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you ever thought of having an OAP big brother. I am sure it could be more entertaining with the old ones having a go at each other (cause they do love to gossip and bitch behind each others backs) We always have young people and they get boring after a while. Lets have some oldies who have more to say about the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you ever thought of having an OAP big brother. I am sure it could be more entertaining with the old ones having a go at each other (cause they do love to gossip and bitch behind each others backs) We always have young people and they get boring after a while. Lets have some oldies who have more to say about the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Strathcarron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/07/06/have-your-say-july/comment-page-1/#comment-9775</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Strathcarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The programme was enjoyable enough in a prurient Graham Norton/News of the World kind of way, but to reduce the amazing two-year adventure of the young Byron’s Grand Tour to salacious bisexual tittle-tattle is just too easy and predictable. And the attempts to shock us are all rather ‘so-what?’ these days. So he had the clap? So what? So he lusted after boys and lusted after girls too? So what? So he observed the Turks practiced sodomy and sherbet (four times in the programme)? So what (each time)? So he debauched in a bathhouse? So what? The most interesting apart of his bisexuality was that his sexual on/off switch was not male/female but beautiful/not beautiful, and that wasn&#039;t mentioned at all.

While the crew were assembled why not make a film of the Grand Tour in the round over, say, four episodes? Where was the mention of his grandstanding involvement in the Napoleonic or Peninsula Wars? Where his recruitment as an agent for British Intelligence in Malta and subsequent mission in Albania – the only reason to go to Albania, and not mentioned at all? Or his revelations at Beckford’s house in Cintra? Or his confinement in the hell hole of Gibraltar? Or his development as a poet and a peer? Or his privateering adventures in the Aegean? 

The historical inaccuracies were annoying as this was a story so easy to get right – all the writers had to do was the read the Fiona MacCarthy biography Rupert Everett was carrying around in the PR shots. What happened to Sardinia and Sicily? Byron visited Greece before Turkey and first arrived on land from the west not by sea from the east; he was agitated about Elgin long before he left London, not as a result of anything that happened in Athens; he never stayed at the British Embassy in Istanbul, and didn’t flounce out of the audience with the sultan, who (Sultan Mahmoud II) wasn’t ‘fearsome’ at all; Hobhouse had already left for England by the time Byron visited Greece for the second time; Byron didn’t swim the Hellespont on the way back from Constantinople but on the way there, and crossed it further downstream; there is absolutely no evidence at all that Donna Josefa cut off her hair in pique at Byron romancing her sister, quite the contrary, and there is no evidence at all that Byron’s manhood was ‘Brazilian’, sub-Brazilian or even from anywhere on planet earth; Ali Pasha was never fighting for Albanian independence – he already owned it and half of Greece as an Ottoman protected fiefdom; and only an act-or could pronounce Ali Pasha as Ali Pash-ar. Only a very ill-mannered actor would try to embarrass the (female Moslem) Rector of Istanbul University on camera with yet another comment on sodomy or HM’s (female) Consul General with a lewd remark about HM’s figure. Cheap shocks, cheap shots.

For sure Byron enjoyed leg-over a-plenty, as no doubt does Rupert Everett, and - shock-horror! - don’t we all? But for Byron and his readers the Grand Tour was about so much more than pubic hairs and peccadilloes, brothels and bathhouses. It’s shame the programme makers chose to concentrate just on Byron’s sexuality and then tabloid it, when it was just part of a whole host of contradictions and variations which made the man as life and legend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The programme was enjoyable enough in a prurient Graham Norton/News of the World kind of way, but to reduce the amazing two-year adventure of the young Byron’s Grand Tour to salacious bisexual tittle-tattle is just too easy and predictable. And the attempts to shock us are all rather ‘so-what?’ these days. So he had the clap? So what? So he lusted after boys and lusted after girls too? So what? So he observed the Turks practiced sodomy and sherbet (four times in the programme)? So what (each time)? So he debauched in a bathhouse? So what? The most interesting apart of his bisexuality was that his sexual on/off switch was not male/female but beautiful/not beautiful, and that wasn&#8217;t mentioned at all.</p>
<p>While the crew were assembled why not make a film of the Grand Tour in the round over, say, four episodes? Where was the mention of his grandstanding involvement in the Napoleonic or Peninsula Wars? Where his recruitment as an agent for British Intelligence in Malta and subsequent mission in Albania – the only reason to go to Albania, and not mentioned at all? Or his revelations at Beckford’s house in Cintra? Or his confinement in the hell hole of Gibraltar? Or his development as a poet and a peer? Or his privateering adventures in the Aegean? </p>
<p>The historical inaccuracies were annoying as this was a story so easy to get right – all the writers had to do was the read the Fiona MacCarthy biography Rupert Everett was carrying around in the PR shots. What happened to Sardinia and Sicily? Byron visited Greece before Turkey and first arrived on land from the west not by sea from the east; he was agitated about Elgin long before he left London, not as a result of anything that happened in Athens; he never stayed at the British Embassy in Istanbul, and didn’t flounce out of the audience with the sultan, who (Sultan Mahmoud II) wasn’t ‘fearsome’ at all; Hobhouse had already left for England by the time Byron visited Greece for the second time; Byron didn’t swim the Hellespont on the way back from Constantinople but on the way there, and crossed it further downstream; there is absolutely no evidence at all that Donna Josefa cut off her hair in pique at Byron romancing her sister, quite the contrary, and there is no evidence at all that Byron’s manhood was ‘Brazilian’, sub-Brazilian or even from anywhere on planet earth; Ali Pasha was never fighting for Albanian independence – he already owned it and half of Greece as an Ottoman protected fiefdom; and only an act-or could pronounce Ali Pasha as Ali Pash-ar. Only a very ill-mannered actor would try to embarrass the (female Moslem) Rector of Istanbul University on camera with yet another comment on sodomy or HM’s (female) Consul General with a lewd remark about HM’s figure. Cheap shocks, cheap shots.</p>
<p>For sure Byron enjoyed leg-over a-plenty, as no doubt does Rupert Everett, and &#8211; shock-horror! &#8211; don’t we all? But for Byron and his readers the Grand Tour was about so much more than pubic hairs and peccadilloes, brothels and bathhouses. It’s shame the programme makers chose to concentrate just on Byron’s sexuality and then tabloid it, when it was just part of a whole host of contradictions and variations which made the man as life and legend.</p>
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		<title>By: Greatrex Delicate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greatrex Delicate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found Matthews Sweets opening remarks to the piece on Claridges gratuitously offensive. He only gets away with this sort of thing because the royal family are in no position to bite back. He should be made to apologise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found Matthews Sweets opening remarks to the piece on Claridges gratuitously offensive. He only gets away with this sort of thing because the royal family are in no position to bite back. He should be made to apologise.</p>
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