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	<title>Comments on: Reflecting On Celebrity Big Brother 2009</title>
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		<title>By: yvonne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-7071</link>
		<dc:creator>yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With so many viewers leaving the show,surely the time has come to admit things are not working.A website to replace 24/7 feed which only updates from 11am-7pm most days is not a replacement for live feed.There is no press or publicity this year no papers are interested because there is no coverage to talk about,same as the viewers we have nothing to talk about to spread the BB word which we have done for 9 loyal years &gt;big Brother is not a website for 5 year ols it is a tv show about watching people interacting in a house.How are they interacting with stories and 1 minute clips,Please dont ignore us anymore we are trying to save the show.Live feed is on at midnight,why?,when they are in bed or are going.Why cant you keep the midnight slot but show us what has happened in the house between 6pm to midnight instead.This option would not cost you any more and we could feel that we were part of the show againg.At the moment we feel very excluded and cannot vote or take part because we just cant connect to what is called Big Brother not a pre recorded soap ,we need the highlights and the live feed to make sense of the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many viewers leaving the show,surely the time has come to admit things are not working.A website to replace 24/7 feed which only updates from 11am-7pm most days is not a replacement for live feed.There is no press or publicity this year no papers are interested because there is no coverage to talk about,same as the viewers we have nothing to talk about to spread the BB word which we have done for 9 loyal years &gt;big Brother is not a website for 5 year ols it is a tv show about watching people interacting in a house.How are they interacting with stories and 1 minute clips,Please dont ignore us anymore we are trying to save the show.Live feed is on at midnight,why?,when they are in bed or are going.Why cant you keep the midnight slot but show us what has happened in the house between 6pm to midnight instead.This option would not cost you any more and we could feel that we were part of the show againg.At the moment we feel very excluded and cannot vote or take part because we just cant connect to what is called Big Brother not a pre recorded soap ,we need the highlights and the live feed to make sense of the house.</p>
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		<title>By: Harmony</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-7067</link>
		<dc:creator>Harmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No LIVE feed NO show iam afraid.....the viewers like to watch and make their own mind up about h/ms and a one hour h/l show is not giving us anything but a show we cannot become involved in and vote.  A waste of time for the viewers or h/ms

disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No LIVE feed NO show iam afraid&#8230;..the viewers like to watch and make their own mind up about h/ms and a one hour h/l show is not giving us anything but a show we cannot become involved in and vote.  A waste of time for the viewers or h/ms</p>
<p>disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: lynda</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5852</link>
		<dc:creator>lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that BB10 is haemorrhaging fans daily, (aspredicted), could you now have the courtesy to tell us the real reason for the ridiculous decision to only allow live streaming when the housemates are asleep?
No wonder channel 4 has financial problems, with such short sighted decisions being made such as this.
Do you really think that re-runs of re-runs of Friends will bring in the viewers and advertising revenue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that BB10 is haemorrhaging fans daily, (aspredicted), could you now have the courtesy to tell us the real reason for the ridiculous decision to only allow live streaming when the housemates are asleep?<br />
No wonder channel 4 has financial problems, with such short sighted decisions being made such as this.<br />
Do you really think that re-runs of re-runs of Friends will bring in the viewers and advertising revenue?</p>
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		<title>By: hotpants Helen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>hotpants Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So a &quot;REVIEW&quot; means closure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a &#8220;REVIEW&#8221; means closure!</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Carter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-2256</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to you for your feedback on the format of the Big Brother forums this year.  We are having a review of forums more generally, so rest assured that your comments will be taken into account as part of that process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you for your feedback on the format of the Big Brother forums this year.  We are having a review of forums more generally, so rest assured that your comments will be taken into account as part of that process.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Golightly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-2149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Golightly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to endorse and amplify every point raised by Oggbad in the post above.  The situation with the forum moderators has gone beyond ridiculous.  Ch4&#039;s BB forum is a thriving, intelligent and humorous community but it is constantly stifled by a form of moderation that is nothing less than contemptuous of all posters.

We all understand, appreciate and welcome the need for moderation that keeps the forum free of libel, &#039;...ism&#039;s&#039; and out-and-out trolling, but what we are faced with are arbitrary deletions and bannings.  The majority of the regular posters here are adults with wit and sensitivity in equal measure, yet they are constantly treated with disdain.  

It is demoralising in the extreme to be regularly met with such unfair reactions.

I am sure I speak for more than myself when I say, is there any chance of a reaction to the comments that people have taken the time to consider and post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to endorse and amplify every point raised by Oggbad in the post above.  The situation with the forum moderators has gone beyond ridiculous.  Ch4&#8217;s BB forum is a thriving, intelligent and humorous community but it is constantly stifled by a form of moderation that is nothing less than contemptuous of all posters.</p>
<p>We all understand, appreciate and welcome the need for moderation that keeps the forum free of libel, &#8216;&#8230;ism&#8217;s&#8217; and out-and-out trolling, but what we are faced with are arbitrary deletions and bannings.  The majority of the regular posters here are adults with wit and sensitivity in equal measure, yet they are constantly treated with disdain.  </p>
<p>It is demoralising in the extreme to be regularly met with such unfair reactions.</p>
<p>I am sure I speak for more than myself when I say, is there any chance of a reaction to the comments that people have taken the time to consider and post?</p>
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		<title>By: Oggbad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Oggbad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to report but the lack of genuine communication with the C4 Mods remains an issue.

There was a brief moment a week ago when I thought it might be moving forward but it is back to the old standard - read the T&amp;Cs.

We need a accessible complaints procedure where our comments are not reviewed by the people that are not communicating with us in the first place.

The current system is not independent - we are complaining (about decisions taken) to the people who made the decisions - hardly a credible solution.

Can we either have some proper dialogue - or access to a grievance procedure please?

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to report but the lack of genuine communication with the C4 Mods remains an issue.</p>
<p>There was a brief moment a week ago when I thought it might be moving forward but it is back to the old standard &#8211; read the T&amp;Cs.</p>
<p>We need a accessible complaints procedure where our comments are not reviewed by the people that are not communicating with us in the first place.</p>
<p>The current system is not independent &#8211; we are complaining (about decisions taken) to the people who made the decisions &#8211; hardly a credible solution.</p>
<p>Can we either have some proper dialogue &#8211; or access to a grievance procedure please?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: JacksonB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>JacksonB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decline of BB  started with BB7, the manipulation of the audience,culminating in the return of Nikki, having already been voted out,left a nasty tatse in the mouth for many viewers, not to mention a distrust  and cynicism of what they were watching on the highlights shows.
All through BB7 Nikki and Pete were given huge amounts of airtime and other HM&#039;s,Aisleyene for example were either ignored or pilloried on the mainstream C4 programmes,it came as little or no surprise to many of us,although it seemed to come as a major surprise to C4 that Aisleyene became the highest placed female that series.
Part of the reason she was so highly placed has to be a reaction by the audience to the manipulation they felt.
I don&#039;t think BB has ever recovered from that misjudgement ,the audience has never shaken off the feeling that C4 will try to manipulate us,lie to us and simply believe that they know best.
The lack of live fed is seen as another manipulation,we only get to see what you choose to show us,well that&#039;s not going to wash, and you will lose audience as a result.
The format of the C4 BB forum has to viewed with same, by now, jaundiced eye.
The only debates that survive the nightly cull are the ones C4 want us to discuss,which we don&#039;t,of course. we just start over each morning with discussions we  want to be engaged with.
The nightly cleaning of the forum and the closing time of 12 midnight, leaves very little scope for any discussion at all, some times the highlight show ends at 11pm,  some of the spin off shows even later,so all fired up with enthusiasm we rush to the C4 forum, to partake in 15- 30 minutes of  talk ,after which the place is closed and sanitised.
You are better than this  C4, or at least you used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decline of BB  started with BB7, the manipulation of the audience,culminating in the return of Nikki, having already been voted out,left a nasty tatse in the mouth for many viewers, not to mention a distrust  and cynicism of what they were watching on the highlights shows.<br />
All through BB7 Nikki and Pete were given huge amounts of airtime and other HM&#8217;s,Aisleyene for example were either ignored or pilloried on the mainstream C4 programmes,it came as little or no surprise to many of us,although it seemed to come as a major surprise to C4 that Aisleyene became the highest placed female that series.<br />
Part of the reason she was so highly placed has to be a reaction by the audience to the manipulation they felt.<br />
I don&#8217;t think BB has ever recovered from that misjudgement ,the audience has never shaken off the feeling that C4 will try to manipulate us,lie to us and simply believe that they know best.<br />
The lack of live fed is seen as another manipulation,we only get to see what you choose to show us,well that&#8217;s not going to wash, and you will lose audience as a result.<br />
The format of the C4 BB forum has to viewed with same, by now, jaundiced eye.<br />
The only debates that survive the nightly cull are the ones C4 want us to discuss,which we don&#8217;t,of course. we just start over each morning with discussions we  want to be engaged with.<br />
The nightly cleaning of the forum and the closing time of 12 midnight, leaves very little scope for any discussion at all, some times the highlight show ends at 11pm,  some of the spin off shows even later,so all fired up with enthusiasm we rush to the C4 forum, to partake in 15- 30 minutes of  talk ,after which the place is closed and sanitised.<br />
You are better than this  C4, or at least you used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Supakeyboard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Supakeyboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all want 24 hour live feed</description>
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		<title>By: Okey Dokex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2009/02/06/reflecting-on-celebrity-big-brother-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>Okey Dokex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good points above.  I want to add my voice to the call for the reinstatement of live feed.  It&#039;s just so necessary.  The journo&#039;s and blog writers all watch live feed and they then help to generate the excitement around the prog.  Plus the point made about coming up with new ideas that get ignored - well said!  Whatever was that target thing for?  And the jail is rubbish.  BB acts like they have no control - that&#039;s where serious mistakes have been made - You Are in control - not the housemates!  Show them that!

And I cannot ignore the absolute DIRE performance of the forum this year.  Who thought up that hot-topics idea?  If they haven&#039;t already been demoted to the post-room, do it now!  I have never come across a supposedly adult forum that is so patronising!  Breathtaking really.  I suppose you have to acknowledge whether you actually care about viewer input or not.  If these points are not addressed I guess we have our answer ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good points above.  I want to add my voice to the call for the reinstatement of live feed.  It&#8217;s just so necessary.  The journo&#8217;s and blog writers all watch live feed and they then help to generate the excitement around the prog.  Plus the point made about coming up with new ideas that get ignored &#8211; well said!  Whatever was that target thing for?  And the jail is rubbish.  BB acts like they have no control &#8211; that&#8217;s where serious mistakes have been made &#8211; You Are in control &#8211; not the housemates!  Show them that!</p>
<p>And I cannot ignore the absolute DIRE performance of the forum this year.  Who thought up that hot-topics idea?  If they haven&#8217;t already been demoted to the post-room, do it now!  I have never come across a supposedly adult forum that is so patronising!  Breathtaking really.  I suppose you have to acknowledge whether you actually care about viewer input or not.  If these points are not addressed I guess we have our answer &#8230;</p>
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