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		<title>By: Jane Halbrook</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Halbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello I&#039;m looking for a new job and I think you could make a funny show about me that people would laugh there faces off. All my clients have told me for years that someone needs to do a show at me because they say I&#039;m so funny. I&#039;m am hairdresser and permanent cosmetic artist and real peoples lifes can be funny if you know how to pull it out of them. I can talk to anyone anywhere anytime  and before long we are laughing. Hey this is just an idea if you need a good laugh , have a beautiful day Jane Halbrook.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello I&#8217;m looking for a new job and I think you could make a funny show about me that people would laugh there faces off. All my clients have told me for years that someone needs to do a show at me because they say I&#8217;m so funny. I&#8217;m am hairdresser and permanent cosmetic artist and real peoples lifes can be funny if you know how to pull it out of them. I can talk to anyone anywhere anytime  and before long we are laughing. Hey this is just an idea if you need a good laugh , have a beautiful day Jane Halbrook&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: John Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>John Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a rule I tend to despise reality TV shows, believing that in their attempts to generate entertaining viewing, TV executives prefer to recruit intellectually and behaviourally challenged members of the public with either borderline or overt personality disorders. This is a recipe for inducing despair in the viewing public, that just for once might like to come across someone they could admire.   

That said I&#039;ve just watched the September 18th broadcast of When Women Rule the World (the one where Richard is sacrificed) and sidestepping any debate on the show’s contribution to the exploration of gender issues, let me just say to Richard if he&#039;s reading any of this - Richard you are a hero.

As the natural leader of the men, you were brave, inspiring and loyal; you displayed honesty, integrity and great insight and yes, you were witty with it. Your premature exit from the show is a loss to the nation and confirmed both the shallow, petty-mindedness of the women voting against you and their utter inability to appreciate true intellect and leadership in action. If it&#039;s any consolation, your parting comments to them were wonderfully incisive and should in any fair and just universe haunt them for years to come. And the cigar - sheer class. 

Frankly you are one of the smartest, wittiest and coolest blokes I&#039;ve ever seen on TV and I feel personally richer for having discovered that there are men like you out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a rule I tend to despise reality TV shows, believing that in their attempts to generate entertaining viewing, TV executives prefer to recruit intellectually and behaviourally challenged members of the public with either borderline or overt personality disorders. This is a recipe for inducing despair in the viewing public, that just for once might like to come across someone they could admire.   </p>
<p>That said I&#8217;ve just watched the September 18th broadcast of When Women Rule the World (the one where Richard is sacrificed) and sidestepping any debate on the show’s contribution to the exploration of gender issues, let me just say to Richard if he&#8217;s reading any of this &#8211; Richard you are a hero.</p>
<p>As the natural leader of the men, you were brave, inspiring and loyal; you displayed honesty, integrity and great insight and yes, you were witty with it. Your premature exit from the show is a loss to the nation and confirmed both the shallow, petty-mindedness of the women voting against you and their utter inability to appreciate true intellect and leadership in action. If it&#8217;s any consolation, your parting comments to them were wonderfully incisive and should in any fair and just universe haunt them for years to come. And the cigar &#8211; sheer class. </p>
<p>Frankly you are one of the smartest, wittiest and coolest blokes I&#8217;ve ever seen on TV and I feel personally richer for having discovered that there are men like you out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Park</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C4 seems to do an excellent job at exploiting the weaknesses in human behaviour and some of the prgrammes are, indeed, both entertaining and educational. If I have a concern it would be that the malajusted see those weaknesses as being normal and okay which certainly is socially counter productive. I am reminded here of the young woman who admitted having had sexual partners in the hundreds and did not feel that she had a problem!  We are, however, in a rapidly changing world and adaptation is imperative.

As a male I do not feel humiliated by how woman are portrayed on tv (which is only a dream) but I do not subscribe to the accusation that men do not get the same attention; what about the masses of air time given to sport, and especially Billy Bunter&#039;s game of football; obviously we have not left behind our tribal instincts.

(Must go now as the lady of the house insists that I go shopping with her and she is not happy that I am on the Net but that&#039;s life)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C4 seems to do an excellent job at exploiting the weaknesses in human behaviour and some of the prgrammes are, indeed, both entertaining and educational. If I have a concern it would be that the malajusted see those weaknesses as being normal and okay which certainly is socially counter productive. I am reminded here of the young woman who admitted having had sexual partners in the hundreds and did not feel that she had a problem!  We are, however, in a rapidly changing world and adaptation is imperative.</p>
<p>As a male I do not feel humiliated by how woman are portrayed on tv (which is only a dream) but I do not subscribe to the accusation that men do not get the same attention; what about the masses of air time given to sport, and especially Billy Bunter&#8217;s game of football; obviously we have not left behind our tribal instincts.</p>
<p>(Must go now as the lady of the house insists that I go shopping with her and she is not happy that I am on the Net but that&#8217;s life)!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb Covel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Covel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please hang on and keep reading as I think I am going off on a tangent to what people are saying about women in tv, but i think its relevant enough a topic to mention here for women with this condition, alopecia, and how there seems to be virtually no show dealing without, other than perhaps when Porter lost hers quite a while back.  But thats old news now it seems.   

I&#039;ve just filled in some forms to &#039;take part&#039; in various shows after having emailed lots of show makers to try to get this problem addressed.  Not one has contacted me back.  I am on a mission, be it pointless to rid stigma, elimate ignorance on it.  Noone seems interested, is it not sexy enough, would they rather have stuff about boobs, vaginas and the like, yes hair is another string of the vanity issues, however not something that can be hidden as well, unless ofcourse your rich enough to get the top knotch wigs, or rich enough not to care on those who stare.  
My assumption is ideas for shows come from men who think like my ex consultant, I walked in one day and said Hi in my usually happy (hiding whats really there) self and said to my consultant, found a cure yet.  He replies did you see a porshe in the car park!   

Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please hang on and keep reading as I think I am going off on a tangent to what people are saying about women in tv, but i think its relevant enough a topic to mention here for women with this condition, alopecia, and how there seems to be virtually no show dealing without, other than perhaps when Porter lost hers quite a while back.  But thats old news now it seems.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just filled in some forms to &#8216;take part&#8217; in various shows after having emailed lots of show makers to try to get this problem addressed.  Not one has contacted me back.  I am on a mission, be it pointless to rid stigma, elimate ignorance on it.  Noone seems interested, is it not sexy enough, would they rather have stuff about boobs, vaginas and the like, yes hair is another string of the vanity issues, however not something that can be hidden as well, unless ofcourse your rich enough to get the top knotch wigs, or rich enough not to care on those who stare.<br />
My assumption is ideas for shows come from men who think like my ex consultant, I walked in one day and said Hi in my usually happy (hiding whats really there) self and said to my consultant, found a cure yet.  He replies did you see a porshe in the car park!   </p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Diva</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Diva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself to be a young intelligent woman, and I used to b a massive fan of Channel 4, because it broke boundaries, set agenda&#039;s and importantly for me reflected and (more times than not) spoke to a multi- ethnic Britain. What&#039;s happened! There was a time when Channel4 had a remit, they were proud of the fact, and it was reflected in the programme making. In a competive market, with digital channels, Sky etc the lines are now being blurred. BBC3 seems not much different from Channel4 yet BBC3 claims to b a youth channel, with a target audience of 16-34.  I watch BBC3 for innovative comedys or tacky documentaries. But I can get tacky documentaries on other other digital and satellite channels, viewers have come to expect more from Channel 4 well I certainly have. 

Channel4 in my opinion has started to cross the line and is now making tacky documentaries instead of really informative ones. 

What&#039;s become of Channel4&#039;s documentary strand. don&#039;t get me wrong, I watched the strand that was supposedly for women that included a tv chef finding a way to legitimise her wanting to wear fur. I believe in freedom of choice, did she really need to be paid to publicly exercise her quandry on national tv. Did the food critic (who starrred in another documentry on the digital channel i mentioned earlier, where she starved herself to see what it would be like to b a size 00, and who in my opinion not the opinion of Channel4 looks as if she could do with eating a few greasy burgers) really need to be paid to undergo botox surgeries that she obviously wanted to have done anyway. Somebody who can well afford it, having their face slashed for public voyerism and vanity is tacky. 

A programme on breast feeding that I&#039;m afraid I won&#039;t watch. I don&#039;t have children, but that programme seems to have been made with the hope that Kate Garraway who is a very attractive woman with an ample pair will expose that ample pair to the nation and give the men of Britain and a few women an early bedtime treat.    

Women are multi faceted. It seems that programme makers seem to be obbessed with female insecurities as a way to entertain. When women ruled the world is a prime example. A programme that shouldn&#039;t have been shown outside the T4 strand were it would have been seen as light hearted entertainment. But instead a group of neanderthals with chauvinistic views on women and a group of women from across the globe who culturally have different views on how to ascert themselves around men promised plenty but delivered absolutely nothing. Sexist, stereotypical, who was supposed to have been entertained. Getting Steve Jones to anchor it will make some people return for more but its dire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself to be a young intelligent woman, and I used to b a massive fan of Channel 4, because it broke boundaries, set agenda&#8217;s and importantly for me reflected and (more times than not) spoke to a multi- ethnic Britain. What&#8217;s happened! There was a time when Channel4 had a remit, they were proud of the fact, and it was reflected in the programme making. In a competive market, with digital channels, Sky etc the lines are now being blurred. BBC3 seems not much different from Channel4 yet BBC3 claims to b a youth channel, with a target audience of 16-34.  I watch BBC3 for innovative comedys or tacky documentaries. But I can get tacky documentaries on other other digital and satellite channels, viewers have come to expect more from Channel 4 well I certainly have. </p>
<p>Channel4 in my opinion has started to cross the line and is now making tacky documentaries instead of really informative ones. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s become of Channel4&#8217;s documentary strand. don&#8217;t get me wrong, I watched the strand that was supposedly for women that included a tv chef finding a way to legitimise her wanting to wear fur. I believe in freedom of choice, did she really need to be paid to publicly exercise her quandry on national tv. Did the food critic (who starrred in another documentry on the digital channel i mentioned earlier, where she starved herself to see what it would be like to b a size 00, and who in my opinion not the opinion of Channel4 looks as if she could do with eating a few greasy burgers) really need to be paid to undergo botox surgeries that she obviously wanted to have done anyway. Somebody who can well afford it, having their face slashed for public voyerism and vanity is tacky. </p>
<p>A programme on breast feeding that I&#8217;m afraid I won&#8217;t watch. I don&#8217;t have children, but that programme seems to have been made with the hope that Kate Garraway who is a very attractive woman with an ample pair will expose that ample pair to the nation and give the men of Britain and a few women an early bedtime treat.    </p>
<p>Women are multi faceted. It seems that programme makers seem to be obbessed with female insecurities as a way to entertain. When women ruled the world is a prime example. A programme that shouldn&#8217;t have been shown outside the T4 strand were it would have been seen as light hearted entertainment. But instead a group of neanderthals with chauvinistic views on women and a group of women from across the globe who culturally have different views on how to ascert themselves around men promised plenty but delivered absolutely nothing. Sexist, stereotypical, who was supposed to have been entertained. Getting Steve Jones to anchor it will make some people return for more but its dire.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV personalities need to stand up and say enough is enough.  Men like Krishnan should say how wrong it is that women are always catered for and that men should be treated fairly on tv.  But will famous men do this?  Do they fear the backlash from women if they do?  Do these men care about the young men growing up today and seeing this negative view of men on tv?  We can complain and say how wrong it is as much as we like but unless men in the media or spotlight help other men/boys by standing up to this &#039;female chauvenism&#039; then nobody seems to care.

Boys are not doing as well as girls in schools.. is it any wonder when the western society seems to be all about &#039;what women want&#039; and pushing mens confidence and pride down with programmes such as &#039;when women ruled the world&#039;.

Come on Krishnan.. come on all those guys in the public spotlight, media and sport.. Stand up and help us!

&#124; also know a lot of women who think its wrong too.  I read an article about a feminist who is against radical feminism and thinks that men are being treated unfairly.  Ann Widdecombe has also highlighted the plight of men today and how we are treated.  

To give an example of how &#039;chauvenism&#039; has changed from being male to female chauvenism...  The business I&#039;m in I help women&#039;s businesses and organisations by promoting them and doing work for women&#039;s charities such as Breast Cancer etc.  When Ive spoke about supporting women and women&#039;s rights I&#039;ve been told how good I am and how good it is to see a man fight for women&#039;s rights.  But.... when I then also said, lets talk about men&#039;s rights... I was moaned at and more or less told I was being sexist for not thinking about women&#039;s rights.  Why??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV personalities need to stand up and say enough is enough.  Men like Krishnan should say how wrong it is that women are always catered for and that men should be treated fairly on tv.  But will famous men do this?  Do they fear the backlash from women if they do?  Do these men care about the young men growing up today and seeing this negative view of men on tv?  We can complain and say how wrong it is as much as we like but unless men in the media or spotlight help other men/boys by standing up to this &#8216;female chauvenism&#8217; then nobody seems to care.</p>
<p>Boys are not doing as well as girls in schools.. is it any wonder when the western society seems to be all about &#8216;what women want&#8217; and pushing mens confidence and pride down with programmes such as &#8216;when women ruled the world&#8217;.</p>
<p>Come on Krishnan.. come on all those guys in the public spotlight, media and sport.. Stand up and help us!</p>
<p>| also know a lot of women who think its wrong too.  I read an article about a feminist who is against radical feminism and thinks that men are being treated unfairly.  Ann Widdecombe has also highlighted the plight of men today and how we are treated.  </p>
<p>To give an example of how &#8216;chauvenism&#8217; has changed from being male to female chauvenism&#8230;  The business I&#8217;m in I help women&#8217;s businesses and organisations by promoting them and doing work for women&#8217;s charities such as Breast Cancer etc.  When Ive spoke about supporting women and women&#8217;s rights I&#8217;ve been told how good I am and how good it is to see a man fight for women&#8217;s rights.  But&#8230;. when I then also said, lets talk about men&#8217;s rights&#8230; I was moaned at and more or less told I was being sexist for not thinking about women&#8217;s rights.  Why??</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought &#039;when women ruled the world&quot; was an absolute disgrace! The way the men were treated was appalling. I found it all sexist, degrading and totally unacceptable.

Actually, I found it quite upsetting as well - how a person can treat another human being like that was shocking. These women were clearly getting a kick out of being abusive towards these men. Constant shouting, insults, jibes and nagging and if the men complained they got the threat of &quot;punishment&quot;.  Sick behavour!

Also, rather dubious treatment of a black man that was borderline racist.

C4 wouldn&#039;t dare produce a programme where women are abused by men like this so why is it ok for them to do it to men?

It&#039;s just sick TV for sick people.



It is a shame really because it could have potentially been a good show. I have worked for many female managers in the past and they have all been good - giving good instructions, being supportive, caring and helpful.

This program could have shown just how good female leaders can be and how if men and women work together in harmony and respect then they can achieve great things.

Sadly, a wasted opportunity C4!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8216;when women ruled the world&#8221; was an absolute disgrace! The way the men were treated was appalling. I found it all sexist, degrading and totally unacceptable.</p>
<p>Actually, I found it quite upsetting as well &#8211; how a person can treat another human being like that was shocking. These women were clearly getting a kick out of being abusive towards these men. Constant shouting, insults, jibes and nagging and if the men complained they got the threat of &#8220;punishment&#8221;.  Sick behavour!</p>
<p>Also, rather dubious treatment of a black man that was borderline racist.</p>
<p>C4 wouldn&#8217;t dare produce a programme where women are abused by men like this so why is it ok for them to do it to men?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just sick TV for sick people.</p>
<p>It is a shame really because it could have potentially been a good show. I have worked for many female managers in the past and they have all been good &#8211; giving good instructions, being supportive, caring and helpful.</p>
<p>This program could have shown just how good female leaders can be and how if men and women work together in harmony and respect then they can achieve great things.</p>
<p>Sadly, a wasted opportunity C4!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Watson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Steve&quot; has hit the nail on the head with his post about the anti-man programmes that infest television . 
Society is currently based around the &quot;needs&quot; of women . Politicians are constantly chasing womens votes ,while ignoring men . TV both degrades and demonises men , and anti-male divorce laws speak for themselves . Men are second class citizens ,and some are getting fed up with it . 
Any chance of Channel 4 having a programme about how men are portrayed ?  
Silly question really !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Steve&#8221; has hit the nail on the head with his post about the anti-man programmes that infest television .<br />
Society is currently based around the &#8220;needs&#8221; of women . Politicians are constantly chasing womens votes ,while ignoring men . TV both degrades and demonises men , and anti-male divorce laws speak for themselves . Men are second class citizens ,and some are getting fed up with it .<br />
Any chance of Channel 4 having a programme about how men are portrayed ?<br />
Silly question really !</p>
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		<title>By: Leanne Mundy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Leanne Mundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Channel 4 is undoubtedy innovative in its approach to current topical issues. Channel 4 appear to be mainly exploring concerns and issues that women are experiencing today as a result of the damaging influences they are bombarded with from the mass Media. They are merely reflecting what our culture is about today, as sad as that may seem. 
Instead of focussing on giving confidence to women by changing them ( 10 years younger), it would be refreshing to see channel 4 invest time in changing public perception and actually challenge why women have low self esteem.
Leanne Mundy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Channel 4 is undoubtedy innovative in its approach to current topical issues. Channel 4 appear to be mainly exploring concerns and issues that women are experiencing today as a result of the damaging influences they are bombarded with from the mass Media. They are merely reflecting what our culture is about today, as sad as that may seem.<br />
Instead of focussing on giving confidence to women by changing them ( 10 years younger), it would be refreshing to see channel 4 invest time in changing public perception and actually challenge why women have low self esteem.<br />
Leanne Mundy</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/thetvshow/2008/09/04/women-on-4/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re; The perfect Vagina
I watched the program - thought it was really good  - informative and a refreshingly new genre  - with Lisa Rogers doing a great job.
Your comment that  any men watching it were just hoping that Lisa Rogers would &#039;get her bits out&#039; is purile and childish and even the phraseology used there ,shows that you at channel 4 are not quite as mature about sexual matters ( especially when womens bodies are involved ) as you pretend to convey.
Many men  are interested in vaginas believe it or not ! , and about how women feel about that normally &#039;secretive&#039; part of their bodies. How are we supposed to understand them if programs like this ARENT shown?It was interesting though that virtually no actual vaginas were shown,whereas in a long-prior program &#039; The perfect Penis&#039;  must have shown at least 20 if not more, very close-up shots ,plus also felt quite free to almost ridicule,and poke fun at men ( ie the usual boring size issue etc) thru the course of said program with absolutely no regard for any affect on male viewers feelings.
Vaginas are virtually NEVER shown on TV yet the penis is regularly shown, too much in fact if you feel unable to balance that by showing vaginas also.Often even before 9pm  -ie Embarrasing illnesses  shown right at start of show 8pm and often more than one on each show. The ACTUAL list is endless through the course of the year, go do a check yourselves and you will see ,which proves a massive imbalance.
Even trash TV like &#039;Richard &amp; Judy&#039; has Judy moaning about Italian TV with girls in bikinis, yet then she almost cant contain herself when they have the slimming guys performing  &#039;the full monty&#039; (yawn , creatively LAZY - how much longer does that have to be used however tenuous the reason) at teatime , and yes at least one did get fully naked  (with a young boy at front of audience). Would you have  had women stripping with a young girl there?. . I think not.
It is almost as if there is a hidden agenda that  having endless jokes,references to ,and showing of male genitalia is being used almost as a form of trying to disempower men ,rather than to be open and mature about the human body, since female genitals would be discussed and shown equally if that was the case .And that has patently NOT been the case to date , but hopefully this latest seemingly more mature aspect of your programs will mark a move to more balanced views in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re; The perfect Vagina<br />
I watched the program &#8211; thought it was really good  &#8211; informative and a refreshingly new genre  &#8211; with Lisa Rogers doing a great job.<br />
Your comment that  any men watching it were just hoping that Lisa Rogers would &#8216;get her bits out&#8217; is purile and childish and even the phraseology used there ,shows that you at channel 4 are not quite as mature about sexual matters ( especially when womens bodies are involved ) as you pretend to convey.<br />
Many men  are interested in vaginas believe it or not ! , and about how women feel about that normally &#8217;secretive&#8217; part of their bodies. How are we supposed to understand them if programs like this ARENT shown?It was interesting though that virtually no actual vaginas were shown,whereas in a long-prior program &#8216; The perfect Penis&#8217;  must have shown at least 20 if not more, very close-up shots ,plus also felt quite free to almost ridicule,and poke fun at men ( ie the usual boring size issue etc) thru the course of said program with absolutely no regard for any affect on male viewers feelings.<br />
Vaginas are virtually NEVER shown on TV yet the penis is regularly shown, too much in fact if you feel unable to balance that by showing vaginas also.Often even before 9pm  -ie Embarrasing illnesses  shown right at start of show 8pm and often more than one on each show. The ACTUAL list is endless through the course of the year, go do a check yourselves and you will see ,which proves a massive imbalance.<br />
Even trash TV like &#8216;Richard &amp; Judy&#8217; has Judy moaning about Italian TV with girls in bikinis, yet then she almost cant contain herself when they have the slimming guys performing  &#8216;the full monty&#8217; (yawn , creatively LAZY &#8211; how much longer does that have to be used however tenuous the reason) at teatime , and yes at least one did get fully naked  (with a young boy at front of audience). Would you have  had women stripping with a young girl there?. . I think not.<br />
It is almost as if there is a hidden agenda that  having endless jokes,references to ,and showing of male genitalia is being used almost as a form of trying to disempower men ,rather than to be open and mature about the human body, since female genitals would be discussed and shown equally if that was the case .And that has patently NOT been the case to date , but hopefully this latest seemingly more mature aspect of your programs will mark a move to more balanced views in this area.</p>
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