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		<title>By: Media Picks &#171; Laura MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/09/15/one-year-on-lehman-brothers-still-haunts-us/comment-page-1/#comment-18570</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Picks &#171; Laura MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Posted in Media Picks by lauramacdonald on September 20, 2009   One year on, Lehman Brothers still haunts us &#8211; Intelligent analysis from Jon [...]</description>
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		<title>By: al brace</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/09/15/one-year-on-lehman-brothers-still-haunts-us/comment-page-1/#comment-18474</link>
		<dc:creator>al brace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t for 1 minute forget the two who,in this country,presided over our once-great countries collapse.I refer of course to SAINT
TONYand GORMLESS GORDON too busy
feathering their own nests to bother about
us. The only time we&#039;re of any importance
is pre-election, afterwards we cease to
exist exept in our own minds!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t for 1 minute forget the two who,in this country,presided over our once-great countries collapse.I refer of course to SAINT<br />
TONYand GORMLESS GORDON too busy<br />
feathering their own nests to bother about<br />
us. The only time we&#8217;re of any importance<br />
is pre-election, afterwards we cease to<br />
exist exept in our own minds!!</p>
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		<title>By: barbara hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbara hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our culture tells us that winning is the only measure we recognise. Driven by the business of sport and the media, It  now influences all our thinking, all our motivations with disastrous effects.  It is the myth of meritocracy measured only by this sick criterion -rewarded by money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our culture tells us that winning is the only measure we recognise. Driven by the business of sport and the media, It  now influences all our thinking, all our motivations with disastrous effects.  It is the myth of meritocracy measured only by this sick criterion -rewarded by money.</p>
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		<title>By: Saltaire Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saltaire Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon
I hope you intend to interview Geroge Osborne tonight. From what he said on the Today programme this morning it would appear that, if he becomes Chancellor, he will make public all treasury reports even if they show the government in a bad light.

It would be nice to hear him make that pledge specifically on air. If not, his current outbursts are just more political bluster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon<br />
I hope you intend to interview Geroge Osborne tonight. From what he said on the Today programme this morning it would appear that, if he becomes Chancellor, he will make public all treasury reports even if they show the government in a bad light.</p>
<p>It would be nice to hear him make that pledge specifically on air. If not, his current outbursts are just more political bluster.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, nothing has changed in the culture of the banks or financial services in general. I recently attended a local business club breakfast where the speaker was the &#039;regional manger&#039; in Scotland  of one of the surviving taxpayer-subsidised big UK banks.

He kicked of by explaining that &#039;banking was essentially a simple business&#039;, that banks took depositors&#039; money and lent it on to appropriate borrowers and that this assured the banks of a good steady business. For good measure he patronised us with some basics on how to make our applications for loans more attratcive to his managers. He further &#039;explained&#039; to us that trust was central and essential to the business of banks. 

I thought, &#039;well, he is obviously going to get to the honest confession bit where he asks &quot;so what went wrong&quot;&#039;. But no,  he wittered on like this for some time.

This senior representative of a major UK bank was either utterly detached from current reality or utterly lying through his teeth. Certainly, when one emotional business person explained how last year her current bank had enticed her away from her previous bankers - and then this year refused her any further funding on no grounds related to her business - this guy had nothing to offer but a faint sympathetic smile and glib utterances.

The entire bank and financial sector seems happy to simpy wait out the time during which they need to soak the taxpayer before a quick return to the old &#039;business as usual&#039;. Their having learnt nothing will ensure another global collapse that, presumbaly, will be sooner than later and worse than the current one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, nothing has changed in the culture of the banks or financial services in general. I recently attended a local business club breakfast where the speaker was the &#8216;regional manger&#8217; in Scotland  of one of the surviving taxpayer-subsidised big UK banks.</p>
<p>He kicked of by explaining that &#8216;banking was essentially a simple business&#8217;, that banks took depositors&#8217; money and lent it on to appropriate borrowers and that this assured the banks of a good steady business. For good measure he patronised us with some basics on how to make our applications for loans more attratcive to his managers. He further &#8216;explained&#8217; to us that trust was central and essential to the business of banks. </p>
<p>I thought, &#8216;well, he is obviously going to get to the honest confession bit where he asks &#8220;so what went wrong&#8221;&#8216;. But no,  he wittered on like this for some time.</p>
<p>This senior representative of a major UK bank was either utterly detached from current reality or utterly lying through his teeth. Certainly, when one emotional business person explained how last year her current bank had enticed her away from her previous bankers &#8211; and then this year refused her any further funding on no grounds related to her business &#8211; this guy had nothing to offer but a faint sympathetic smile and glib utterances.</p>
<p>The entire bank and financial sector seems happy to simpy wait out the time during which they need to soak the taxpayer before a quick return to the old &#8216;business as usual&#8217;. Their having learnt nothing will ensure another global collapse that, presumbaly, will be sooner than later and worse than the current one.</p>
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		<title>By: phil dicks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/09/15/one-year-on-lehman-brothers-still-haunts-us/comment-page-1/#comment-18137</link>
		<dc:creator>phil dicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of Nothing: it&#039;s just that one of your links (The Daily Beast) is showing this top-drawer model advertising &#039;Woven Cable Bracelets&#039;. Does anyone know  who she is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of Nothing: it&#8217;s just that one of your links (The Daily Beast) is showing this top-drawer model advertising &#8216;Woven Cable Bracelets&#8217;. Does anyone know  who she is?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! - and while I am in rant mode and having just watched Ch4 News and Gordon Brown finally admit what the world and his dog have known for months - there WILL be cuts to Public Spending and also and yet again, the poorest people in our country will bear the brunt of the reneging on the Housing Benefit. Actually the only time, we don&#039;t hear the word &quot;cuts&quot; is when discussing those responsible for the sorry mess which necessitates them. Again, he made scant reference to the ongoing shortcomings of the banking world - almost a throw away line, while he tried to convince us that we are well on our way to recovery.  
I did not think Brown was ever cut out to be a P.M. but I considered he might be a Socialist. What a fool I&#039;ve been!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! &#8211; and while I am in rant mode and having just watched Ch4 News and Gordon Brown finally admit what the world and his dog have known for months &#8211; there WILL be cuts to Public Spending and also and yet again, the poorest people in our country will bear the brunt of the reneging on the Housing Benefit. Actually the only time, we don&#8217;t hear the word &#8220;cuts&#8221; is when discussing those responsible for the sorry mess which necessitates them. Again, he made scant reference to the ongoing shortcomings of the banking world &#8211; almost a throw away line, while he tried to convince us that we are well on our way to recovery.<br />
I did not think Brown was ever cut out to be a P.M. but I considered he might be a Socialist. What a fool I&#8217;ve been!</p>
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		<title>By: phil dicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil dicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we being naive? The financial sector drives everything else - the NHS, etc., is just a nice add-on. That&#039;s how politicians think, and,sadly, they may be right. The public sector gives us a sense of conscience/morality etc., but life is anything but. Business is brutal, politicians are pragmatic, and we seek a coherent moral narrative. Not a good mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we being naive? The financial sector drives everything else &#8211; the NHS, etc., is just a nice add-on. That&#8217;s how politicians think, and,sadly, they may be right. The public sector gives us a sense of conscience/morality etc., but life is anything but. Business is brutal, politicians are pragmatic, and we seek a coherent moral narrative. Not a good mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, Jon!
What would be amusing were it not obviously continuing is the distancing from this global financial catastrophe of the people who brought it on, whilst continuing to milk us for all we are worth.
The banking disaster is alluded to always in the third person as if it were something which befell the banking world and over which they had no influence or control - indeed, almost as if they were victims rather than perpetrators. There is clearly no guilt or conscience or remorse as they continue to award themselves ever increasing salaries and bonuses. Gordon Brown has no intentions of tightening it up or bringing in caps to financial reward - he is thinking ahead to his cushy and highly profitable stint as one of them post election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, Jon!<br />
What would be amusing were it not obviously continuing is the distancing from this global financial catastrophe of the people who brought it on, whilst continuing to milk us for all we are worth.<br />
The banking disaster is alluded to always in the third person as if it were something which befell the banking world and over which they had no influence or control &#8211; indeed, almost as if they were victims rather than perpetrators. There is clearly no guilt or conscience or remorse as they continue to award themselves ever increasing salaries and bonuses. Gordon Brown has no intentions of tightening it up or bringing in caps to financial reward &#8211; he is thinking ahead to his cushy and highly profitable stint as one of them post election.</p>
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		<title>By: Saltaire Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saltaire Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What angers me is that a huge part of the public debt has come from bailing out the greedy people who created the problem but the discussioni about resolving that debt is aimed at the services, not the financial whizz kids.

The arguments are over which services should be cut and what savings (sacking staff) can be made to public services.

Meanwhile the financial geniuses who only survived thanks to public money continue to earn obscene amounts and receive millions in bonuses, mainly in tax &#039;efficient&#039; schemes that contribute as little as possible to the public purse.

It&#039;s time the pain fell on those that created the situation, not the people who rescued them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What angers me is that a huge part of the public debt has come from bailing out the greedy people who created the problem but the discussioni about resolving that debt is aimed at the services, not the financial whizz kids.</p>
<p>The arguments are over which services should be cut and what savings (sacking staff) can be made to public services.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the financial geniuses who only survived thanks to public money continue to earn obscene amounts and receive millions in bonuses, mainly in tax &#8216;efficient&#8217; schemes that contribute as little as possible to the public purse.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time the pain fell on those that created the situation, not the people who rescued them.</p>
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