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Pakistan: tracing the flogging footage

Author: World News Blog Editor|Posted: 2:25 pm on 03/04/09

Category: World News Blog | Tags: / /

Mobile phone footage of a teenage girl being flogged publicly in Pakistan’s Swat Valley is now circulating widely (Google News brings up 89 results at the time of writing – probably far more by the time you read this).

Some viewers may find images in the video below distressing.

Part of this footage was used last month in a Channel 4 News report from the Taliban-controlled area. The report starts with scenes we filmed of a man accused of having gay sex being flogged in public, followed by the now-famous mobile phone footage of the young woman being held down and beaten outside her home for alleged adultery.

See Nick Paton Walsh’s original report on Swat below, or read more on his blog here.

The report begins with violent scenes of public floggings.

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  1. [...] more widely this week in Pakistan. The digital video of the woman being flogged is included in a post on Channel 4’s World News blog today. The same post also includes an earlier report on conditions in the Swat Valley, where a form [...]

  2. At 7:09 pm on April 3, 2009 Ian wrote:

    Just Great! These monsters have been chased away from Afghanistan are now turning Pakistan into another Afghanistan.

  3. At 7:57 pm on April 3, 2009 Shareen wrote:

    Let’s get some women together and go kick some Taliban ass!

    • At 8:15 pm on April 3, 2009 Richard wrote:

      There are lots of men who’d love to go on that trip too!

    • At 4:18 pm on April 4, 2009 J. wrote:

      packed and ready to go!

    • At 9:38 pm on April 4, 2009 Benjamin wrote:

      Don’t forget that it is the women who are mainly responsible for the islamization of europe because they wote like they do and thereby open our borders wide towards africa and arabia. Almost all of those europeans, who convert to women-opressing islam are (guess!) women. Why? Well, if I could only answer that question. If women are able to take responsibility for their own freedom like they claim, they need to start fighting islam seriously. And I mean here, not in Pakistan.

  4. At 8:18 pm on April 3, 2009 Muhammad Junaid wrote:

    Extremely painful shameful heinous barbaric act… These monsters need to be held accountable.

  5. At 9:02 pm on April 3, 2009 genalex wrote:

    What is needed is for the Pakistani military to be purged of Taliban sympathizers, then given full support to engage in a pincers attack in the area to annihilate and or capture for trial all identifiable Taliban and Al Queda members. If this is not done, the viability of the Pakistani government will be threatened and with it the control of its nukes.

  6. At 9:51 pm on April 3, 2009 hussien ackbar wrote:

    Calm down everyone, what you just saw has been happening for a thousand years. Get over it.

    • At 1:51 am on April 4, 2009 Joe wrote:

      You must be from Pakistan..

    • At 12:29 pm on April 4, 2009 Reader wrote:

      So that makes it okay? When they come for you and yours I’d like to see how well you get over it.

    • At 1:16 am on April 5, 2009 Civilized Human wrote:

      Nobody will see justice when the apathetic “get over it” is accepted as an answer. I say, “get on it!”

    • At 2:01 am on April 5, 2009 Chicagoan wrote:

      Have you ever heard of a thing called crual and unusual punishment? May God have mercy on your soul for not caring about woman suffering under these religious nuts.

    • At 4:27 pm on June 6, 2009 Gnosis wrote:

      Some of you are such suckers. This guy is clearly not Pakistani or Arab. Just a racist white guy. The name is not a genuine middle eastern name. And he can’t even spell it right

  7. At 9:55 pm on April 3, 2009 Kenny Sellers wrote:

    Let’s see now…committing adultery in Pakistan results in a spanking. Committing adultery in USA usually results in nothing less than murder/suicide. Seems Pakistan is on to something.

    • At 2:05 pm on April 4, 2009 Chelsea wrote:

      Adultery in the USA leads to NOTHING. It’s so common now that most people ignore it… It might lead to divorce if that.

      You clearly have no clue about the US… Don’t open your mouth and spout nonsense like that.

    • At 5:43 pm on April 4, 2009 Dave M. wrote:

      Actually Kenny boy, Bill Clinton’s numerous adultries led to a senate seat and a cabinet position for his wife. Was that the “murder/suicide” you were talking about?

  8. At 9:56 pm on April 3, 2009 Carik wrote:

    So, if it has been happening for 1000 years it is OK? Slavery, torture and murder have been going for 1000s of years, calm down, everyone.

    Honestly.

    • At 11:48 am on April 5, 2009 deep das wrote:

      you must be crazy to compare this to the past 1000 yrs.history.

  9. At 10:05 pm on April 3, 2009 drake wrote:

    you think this is new? this is the way of life. these people aren’t struggling, they know it is the way it is.

  10. At 10:11 pm on April 3, 2009 Stewart wrote:

    Iranians have it right. Mortal enemies of the Taleban, they will kill any member of the Taleban on sight. Zero tolerance for these monsters.

    • At 8:26 pm on April 4, 2009 W wrote:

      Yeah, the Iranians merely hang women from cranes if they are suspected of impropriety. Or 15 year olds. Just because Iran has (miraculously) held on to a semblance of its former sophistication, the same barbaric impulses that inform the Taliban inform, and continue to thrive in, the Revolutionary Islamic Republic. Cavemen, all.

  11. At 10:20 pm on April 3, 2009 michellesabour wrote:

    This was an accusation toward a woman for adultery. What did she actually do?? open the door of her house for a man visitor?? HUM… lets see the facts people.. there are no facts to see. Extreme views carried out by extreme people- this is not Islam. This is simply (women) human abuse going on for 1000 years.

    • At 6:56 pm on April 5, 2009 Dawn wrote:

      I agree with Michelle! Did this child actually commit adultry? Was it through masturbation? If not, where is the man involved? In the caste of on-lookers maybe? Why do women always have to carry the burden of men’s sexual desires, cruelty, anger and self-loathing. Men commit the unspeakable acts; women suffer for them. Yes, it happens in the USA also; just not on that level. Most would be afraid to go to sleep if they did!

  12. At 10:55 pm on April 3, 2009 Anonymous wrote:

    The whole Islamic world should have zero tolerance for these uneducated losers called Taliban. They have nothing to do with Islam. It is only propaganda to give bad name to a very kind and merciful religion. They will surly burn in deepest of hell fires.

  13. At 11:00 pm on April 3, 2009 TakeHalf wrote:

    They should implement that type of beating here too in the states. I bet life for men would be a lot better.

  14. At 11:42 pm on April 3, 2009 Ben Beboabine wrote:

    They are not hitting these people hard enough this has all been stagged You hit children harder than this!

  15. At 3:45 am on April 4, 2009 Mei wrote:

    The taliban have an inferiority complex and to feel stronger they beat up those who are weaker than them. They are poor representatives of Allah. They will die violently and in their twisted logic they admire themselves for that. Sick. They are an insult to humanity.

  16. At 5:29 am on April 4, 2009 psyop wrote:

    We have not yet accomplished our goal, once the taliban is utterly wiped out, and I do mean every one of them, then true punishment for proven crimes can be carried out. This is simply a $%^& measuring contest on a political and so called religious level.

  17. At 5:39 am on April 4, 2009 kevin wrote:

    This teenager was not accused of adultery. She was caught talking to a boy. The penalty for adultery is death by stoning or hanging, even in a case of rape.

  18. At 5:52 am on April 4, 2009 Video of Taliban Flogging Rattles Pakistan « The Power Of SMS wrote:

    [...] Pakistan — The video shows a young woman held face down as a Taliban commander whips her repeatedly with a leather [...]

  19. At 5:53 am on April 4, 2009 ashique wrote:

    nodoubt, this is a very inhumane and exteremly deplorable deed, if it has really been committed in Pakistan-as Taliban used to coommit such acts in Afghanistan during their reign.However, to me it seems a piece of grand Propaganda that is to be carried out against Pakistan. The propagandist may have these intentions after this kind of act:First, to potray US that now its Pakistan turn that it should invade it because,while showing this vedio the anti pakistani elements want to potray that now Pakistan is no lesser than the previous Afghanistan.actually they want to sabotage the liberal policy of Mr. Obama towards Pakistan. second, they want to sabotage the a little peace that has been brought into the Sawat Valley after giving representation in the Provincial govt to the local,diehard,people.

  20. At 8:52 am on April 4, 2009 Pepper wrote:

    it seems to me that the whip on the man’s back is much “softer” that the hard strokes on the adultress… do you think the whipper is in love with the gay sinner?

  21. At 8:59 am on April 4, 2009 Suzie B. wrote:

    No one deserves to be beaten ever.

    The moment a man claims a right to control the will of a fellow being by physical force, he is at heart a slaveholder. ~Henry C. Wright, The Liberator, 7 April 1837

  22. At 9:14 am on April 4, 2009 Paul wrote:

    By worshiping their own law, they worship the devil within themselves. Whatever she did, could not deserve so many lashes! The brute was obviously enjoying it! I am not entirely against corporal punishment, but only for violent, un-repented crimes; I would think that it is better that sending some teenagers to jail. But the taliban are truly stuck in the middle ages: favor men against the women, their teachers teach killing, the perpetuation of ignorance and violence: they only love power and worship for themselves, and miss-interpret the scriptures. Pity that they don’t realize it. Pakistanis are crazy to have anything to do with this primitive brutes; they will destroy their country.
    Unfortunately looks as the devil is seducing them too.

  23. At 11:18 am on April 4, 2009 nick wrote:

    This kind of thing just makes me sick and sad. Insane men, propogating hocus pocus religion as an excuse for running an apartheid state.

  24. At 1:34 pm on April 4, 2009 adrian wrote:

    In Singapore they whip you for chewing gum…

  25. At 2:21 pm on April 4, 2009 R.Cole wrote:

    Shameless? Inhumane? Intolerable? Have some of these commenters been living in a cave? Ever heard of napalm, or Hiroshima, or My Lai, or the march from Selma to Montgomery? Many Americans over 40 were subjected to a belt or a paddle in their youth from a parent. Go back to your cave and leave the world alone. Better yet, clean up your own house before you condemn others.

    • At 3:15 pm on April 4, 2009 Greg wrote:

      Atrocities committed by one group never justify those committed by another. The actions you mention in and by the US eventually resulted in changes, albeit sometimes slowly. Will this flogging so outrage the local population that policies will progress? I hope so.

  26. At 2:42 pm on April 4, 2009 TheEnforcer wrote:

    It’s all Bush’s fault.

  27. At 3:01 pm on April 4, 2009 Mr X wrote:

    Here is what “bible” recomend
    stoning in bible: 1.For touching Mount Sinai Exodus 19:13 2.For taking “accursed things” Joshua 7:1-26 3.For cursing or blaspheming Leviticus 24:16 4.For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough) Deuteronomy 22:23-24 5.For animals (like an ox that gores a human) Exodus 21:28 6.For a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night Deuteronomy 22:13-21 7.For worshipping other gods Deuteronomy 17:2-5 8.For preaching the wrong religion Deuteronomy 13:5-10 9.For disobeying parents Deuteronomy 21:18-21 10.For witches and wizards Leviticus 20:27 11.For giving your children to Molech Leviticus 20:2 12.For breaking the Sabbath Numbers 15:32-56 13.For cursing the king 1 Kings 21:10 I thought it would be interesting to see how many times, and for what offenses, the Quran prescribed death by stoning. The answer is zero. The Quran does not mention stoning as a punishment for any crime.

    • At 1:16 am on April 20, 2009 Aj wrote:

      O!! yeah… Where do those beheadings come from? What about public stoning, flogging, shooting in the nations following Islam? Quran does not have any such punishments then why are they followed in nations practicing Islam. So much of your quotes from Bible where do you see those implemented. Talk practical. Get your sanity back first.

    • At 4:46 pm on June 5, 2009 Jeff wrote:

      Leviticus is the reason I no longer have any faith in the bible. It is full of prejudice and hatred towards our fellow men.
      Jesus has it right when he says that one should love your fellow man, and leave the judgement to God.

  28. At 3:33 pm on April 4, 2009 said wrote:

    Yes I agree that is very disappointing when three man holding a lady and beat her. This kind of law is not acceptable in any community.
    I was borne in Afghanistan and what I learn is to respect women, we were taught to be helpful to women and children, if there is a disaster we must firs help women and children even if we lost our own life. That is what our grand father and grand mother taught. Why people from the same area and from the same culture turn to complete opposite direction? What is the reason?

  29. At 5:36 pm on April 4, 2009 Sane_Indie wrote:

    I think the solution is that India attack Pakistan, get rid of all the hardliners in army and politics…then put some intelligent person in-charge for a few years…
    dismantle the system which encourages hardliner approach and encourage education of the masses and macro-economic development.
    Pakistan has emerged as the nucleus of spreading terror and this is the only way to stop the rot !!!!

  30. At 5:42 pm on April 4, 2009 M3 wrote:

    As an anthropologist I am suppose to accept the culture of others in an objective, unbiased manner. However, I fail miserably when it comes to such violent behavior.

  31. At 7:06 pm on April 4, 2009 Jon wrote:

    you’re “kidding”…. Right???

  32. At 10:53 pm on April 4, 2009 BrianH wrote:

    Taliban are nothing less then the face of evil. They hide their faces because they are cowards. They beat women because they are not man enough to have a woman who would actually choose them.

  33. At 12:45 am on April 5, 2009 Pakistan Flogging: What Did They Expect? | NEOAVATARA wrote:

    [...] video this week from Pakistan showing the flogging of a young woman by extreme islamists in the Western [...]

  34. At 5:30 am on April 5, 2009 Hammad wrote:

    Soora Al-Noor – Aayah 2

    The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.

    I dont know what was going on there in the video and neither i am defecding those people in any kind of way one could imagine, yet i would like to add that if for the sake of discussion, we take that part aside from that act, those who are calling it a barbarian act are infact trying to imply that Islam and Quran’s Teachings are barbaric and does not comply with the civilized world. I really am sorry to hear such propaganda and all the muslims from the world falling into that. I guess we want to see Islam from the eyes of Non-Muslims. That is even more shameful than the act under discussion by learned commentators.

  35. [...] Pakistan — The video shows a young woman held face down as a Taliban commander whips her repeatedly with a leather [...]

  36. At 10:57 am on April 5, 2009 Video of Taliban Flogging Rattles Pakistan - Mobile News wrote:

    [...] of Taliban Flogging Rattles Pakistan Mobile phone footage of a teenage girl being flogged publicly in Pakistan’s Swat Valley is now circulating [...]

  37. At 2:07 pm on April 5, 2009 chaudhry wrote:

    this happens all the time to be honest,

    it’s just that it has been caught on camera that such a big deal is being made out of it.

  38. At 5:59 pm on April 6, 2009 Coonsey’s World wrote:

    [...] in Uncategorized. trackback Taliban Beating Woman Causes Uproar ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The video shows a young woman held face down as a Taliban commander whips her repeatedly with a leather [...]

  39. At 10:01 pm on April 9, 2009 anonymous wrote:

    the main thing to be seen here really is that the taliban is like a disease…growing in afghanistan and slowly infiltrating Pakistan. Will Pakistan be the new Afghanistan? We shall hope not. The Paki gov should really see what the impacts of creating an afghanistan will do to its country…not only in terms of war but because of war a deterioration in economy, development, technology, education (the main getaway and solution to the Muslim backwardness). All of this has been recently made better by Pakistan..they should definitely not mess this up.
    And really…today it’s one woman…tomorrow…the entire country’s women will be forced to wear burkhas and be beat for talking to a man. Where is the justice and equality in that? This is exactly how Afghanistan’s situation started and we saw what it evolved into. Catching this on video is the first step to making everyone aware of what cruel activities are occurring in Pakistan.

  40. At 8:12 am on April 10, 2009 MARY BAILEY wrote:

    Where is the love. These monsters the taiban are evil and shall burn in hell. They will be surpised when its all over and meet their maker. It maybe a woman.

  41. At 1:38 am on April 12, 2009 Imran Khan wrote:

    They should have sent Fritzl in all his nationalities, to the SWAT valley, to receive a fitting punishment there.
    Also are any of the Taleban even educated in Islamic jurispudence, that they can decide the law and punishment according to Sharia law?

  42. At 1:12 pm on June 5, 2009 Edward wrote:

    Islamic law was a welcome change from the barbaric tribal rules of various Arabian tribes. But that was 12 centuries ago. It is sad that there are parts of the world that are not much different than they were a thousand years ago. We should not focus on their barbaric practices, but rather on our failure to usher these parts of the world into the 21st century along with us.

  43. At 1:02 pm on September 13, 2009 Laurin shahid wrote:

    I think that the Muslim woman should all be armed with AK-47 assault rifles and sent home to thier beloved husbands, brothers and father’s… we should blow up the western mountain range between Afganistan and Pakistan! Set these woman free!

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