No Indian Dance for Team Cameron
David Cameron and his rowing partner Jeremy Hunt have got very enthused about competitive sport this week in their rush to explain dropping the target of two hours PE per week for schoolchildren. “The trouble we have had with targets up to now…” the PM told Daybreak, “..is that a lot of schools were meeting that by doing things like Indian dance or whatever, that you and I probably wouldn’t think of as sport”. So out with dancing and yoga and back to the track, the field, winners and losers. No more nonsense about the taking part mattering, or non-competitive exercise in a world of obese children, according to the PM. Dance, apparently, should not count as physical education (even though it is part of the P.E. National Curriculum). It’s all about the Olympics, stupid. And we’re going for gold. Not surprisingly he has provoked a number of teachers, dancers and Indians in the process, and he must have known that when the words escaped his mouth. The question is why?
With his usual candour Boris Johnson proudly declared recently how brilliant his Eton years had been when he and the other boys did two hours of compulsory sport every day. He would like that for all children. Like Mr Johnson I can never think of school sport without thinking about my own school days – being not quite good enough at football to make even the house team (yes, it was a private school), captaining the cricket team one week and being dropped the next. With his usual political antennae David Cameron has not cited his own school experience in explaining why he thinks competitive sport is so much more important than other physical education. But a glance at the Eton College website gives you a clue about his formative influences :
“Games are central to the Eton curriculum not just because boys enjoy them, but because they embody many qualities in which the school believes. Learning to win and lose, to lead and be led, to push oneself to and perhaps beyond one’s limits, to think as part of a team, to know when to strive for more and when to acknowledge defeat; these are all part of learning to be human.”
I believe in those qualities too. Shouldn’t all our children learn those things? The Eton website goes on :
“There is a vast range of sports available, from the familiar, like soccer, rugby,hockey, cricket, rowing, athletics, squash, to the less familiar like rackets and fives. There are some games which can only be played at Eton, namely the Wall and Field Games. In all there are nearly 30 different games on offer, all coached by Eton masters and professional coaches. There is a school team for just about every boy who wants to play – this amounts to more than 40 teams on some match days – and each of the 25 Houses fields a number of teams at senior and junior levels in the majority of sports.”
This is what David Cameron means when he talks about being lucky enough to have had a first class education. But when he says he wants to make sure every child in this country has the best opportunities we all know the kind of facilities described on the Eton website will never be introduced to every child. And that isn’t his fault. Ministers of all parties have to content themselves with the idea that those facilities should be available to all if they seek them out, join a club and wait on the waiting list. That’s what the taxpayer and the National Lottery should fund.
At top public schools there is a team for every boy and girl who wants to play – even the ones rubbish at sport. But in most schools there isn’t the luxury of giving as much attention to the bottom as the top. If you don’t make the teams it is easy to lose interest, and for the school coach to lose interest in you. That’s why forward thinking schools try to engage children with other physical activities from street dance to yoga and, yes, Indian dancing too. They are physically intensive and competitive too, leading to festivals, exams, competitions and more. They require extreme fitness, focus, determination and a thirst for excellence. They just aren’t “sport”. As a parent I would love nothing more than to see my children win sporting medals for their country – but if they prefer to physically exert themselves through dance, Indian or otherwise, that’s fine with me too. And I would see it as a physical education.


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A sane and sensible piece. Well done Krishnan
Krish,
Nice tongue-in-cheek posting, that. Even if you did nearly bite through it
As for Cameron and his “Indian dancing” slight…what did you expect from a sarf east Little Englander Tory? Multi culturism?
Be interesting to see what would happen if subsidised charitable status was denied to ghettoised dumps like Eton. You can bet that would make them squeal like stuck pigs.
Talking of which, I can’t be the only one to notice the moron Boris Johnson is beginning to look and sound more like Hermann Goering every day. (I wonder what he discussed with the Murdochs…page 3 of The Sun? Fox News fairness doctrine? Mobile phone technology? London police pay scales?)
I’m all for sport. For instance we could introduce a new one: Throw-The-Murdochs-Out-Of-Britain sounds promising. But I doubt if Boris/Hermann would swing on a zip wire for THAT one.
I think the only moron in this piece is you – what an insufferable bore you must be! You obviously didn’t live thru the second world waror you might be a little bit more careful about comparing someone like Boris to a nazi war criminal – perhaps you should engage your brain before your typing finger!!
Seems he did cite Eton sport today. The Telegraph did a round up of Cameron’s interviews this morning – http://bit.ly/MmlXET – in the course of which he said:
“But as well as the facilities and the money, what we really need is a change in culture in our schools and our society that says that sport is good.
“Boris and I famously went to the same school; that is the sort of sport that we did. There is a danger that we think all we need is money and a target.”
Good spot Susie – but I can’t help but wonder how good Eton would be with all the culture and none of the money?
To be honest I absolutely hated sports in school. Probably the only sport I would had liked would have been swimming, but my school had no pool.
I was both rubbish at all sports, completely indifferent to them, and I genuinely thought that doing sports is a private business for everyone to separately decide on, not something to impose on kids.
The thought of being forced to go to sports class for two hours a day would had pushed me over the edge for sure.
I hated most sports except swimming like you. My secondary school didn’t have a pool but I used to get off my backside and go to the local pool. I joined a swimming club and became a very good competitive swimmer!
Cameron is all about PR. He neither knows nor particularly cares how to achieve the grand statements he makes. But that isn’t the point: he wants to look good & sound right here & now. In a day or two’s time, it’ll be the next soundbite.
As a country we do need to take more exercise. The most important thing would be to encourage children to wnat to take exercise and enjoy it. Compulsory competitive sport will drive as many away from exercise as encourage them. Most schools and many families don’t have the money or often the time to support children in lots of the more expensive or time-consuming activities. The Government isn’t going to put loads more money into schools for sport, so Cameron is being hypocritical….the cost of going to Eton is beyond the reach of 99% of families & the cost of replicating it would be prohibitive.
It would be really good if politicians stopped thinking in self-serving soundbites and though carefully about how results could actually be achieved in terms of encouraging both the high achieving athletes and a healthier population of tomorrow. But that involves having to work hard, consult, learn from other people, admit they’ve done some things wrong, listen to people who know vastly more about the subject than they do. So it won’t happen.
Until we get a political class that focuses on HOW to achieve results rather than one which believes that a few words are the answer, we’ll continue to underachieve individually and deteriorate physically while wasting ill-targeted taxpayers money.
A very good critique of our political system: PR. trumps the actual hard work of formulating policy by studying evidence, listening to people who know about the issue, consulting people, explaining, learning from experience and mistakes, being open and honest. Just think how different things would be if that was how our government actually made policy!
You’re absolutely right of course I doubt there’s a functioning parent that wouldn’t agree. But Cameron and his cohorts couldn’t give a s*** about that because how does that help them?
Got it in one,e!
Of course dance is exercise/sport. I wish Cameron would engage his brain before sounding off. No doubt he will backpedal at some point but not before he has yet again demonstrated an inherent narrowness.
I would love to see sport (in its broadest sense) available to all. There would be fewer disaffected youths, I am sure. We can’t all follow the academic path and sport offers one route to self belief and self improvement and success – even if it’s posting a PB every so often. We can’t all come first but we can all have success.
naiv – snap! School sports were a pain! I was lousy at all sport. So much respect for and wonder at all the guys n gals competing in the Olympics.
Olympic weightlifting (which we should be better at as a nation) would be a prime example of something every school should teach and offer to everyone.
My other point would be would this have caused nearly as much of a fuss if he had used the equivalent of country dancing?
Cameron is clearly wrong but the multi-cultural aspect of it is clearly what grabbed media attention.
It seems to me that most forms of dancing done at a level done in schools tends to be non-pressing (at best the level of step aerobics), non-competitive. They can be competitive and should certainly be offered after school as part of extra curricular activity if there is interest but frankly a dance studio will do more good. They’d do better getting outside teachers in.
Unfortunately this is most true of all activities that grassroots organisations will offer more than schools can offer. I like the idea of brining these and exercise professionals into schools as these people can use their expertise.
As a kid to play competitively at Rugby I did have to go to one of the local clubs not the schools.
I say offer kids oly weightlifting if they arent into common sports (and if the are as well) as well as some form of contact sport like boxing/brazillian jui-jutsu/MMA/wrestling which would also be excellent choices to offer to kids particularly in poorer areas. Those sports offer genuine opportunities for personal development in kids not offered by team sports.
Hell just a general exercise class (maybe along the british military fitness model) doing things like push ups/squats/burpees and so on would be a good thing to offer kids not interested in participating in competitive sports.
Hi Krish,
I think that what the PM was trying to say was that many members of the Asian community shy away from sports and are afraid to contribute to mainstream society for fear of competition and rejection.
It would be nice to see more Asians stepping forward and trying to represent their countries in a national sport. In London 2012 there were not even a handful of Asian talent competing and even fewer getting medals.
Asians have a tendency to watch others do well and rally them along other than getting involved themselves apart from doing business or investing in our own academia.
Until we recognise the multiple intelligences associated with other non business careers we will not be maximising our potential as participators and achievers in a broader field of opportunities.
Thank you for considering my points of views.
“Asians have a tendency to watch others do well and rally them along other than getting involved themselves apart from doing business or investing in our own academia.”
Asian lads are mad keen on cricket. Over the years I have seen countless instances of groups of them turning urban pitted concrete play areas into primitive cricket pitches. Their ability and skills are reflected in the number of Asians who make the teams in England and more especially here in Yorkshire.
As predicted, Cameron has come out with his next pronouncement: competitive sport for all. Talk about bandwaggoning – typical of a PR man. Football, netball, hockey, the memories of which at school turn my blood cold. Surely we can and should accommodate the non competitive child too? After all,isn’t the overall aim the next generation’s fitness?
One advantage that a dance class has over a game of hockey or whatever is that you can sell off the playing field.
For the young masses, what is important is doing physical exercise and enjoying it. If Indian dance isn’t good enough for Dave, the answer is a minimum of two hours Proper Eton Sport, not abolishing the minimum altogether.
For the young elite, competitive sport is essential. Surely there is huge scope for the private sector (rather than UK Sport etc) to provide the bulk of this, just as they have provided the solution for our economic stagnation.
I’ve never regarded the idea of avoiding competitive sports, medals for all etc as anything more than a Tory strawman that would require very little physical effort to knock over.
A really good article Krishnan. I think you have articulated what a lot of parents think.Cameron’s words just reflect the government’s attitude to everything Labour did – abolish it as bureaucratic and unsuccessful – back pedal when you realise you’ve made a mistake – make a stupid unthinking statement while ignoring the truth – hope it will all be forgotten when you move on to your next ‘initiative’.
I’m not sure what schools do these days, but I find the whole political schools debate to be obnoxious.
Cameron’s statement just seems to be a political stunt to show that he is solving a probably non existing problem. Not only that but it is going to be ‘compulsory’, what happened to the ‘big society’ and localism rhetoric?
If there is a problem with school sport, we as a nation have got to answer why? Surely after 20years of the politically inspired national curriculum everything in education should be perfect!
In my pre national curriculum primary school days most exercise was in the playground; bulldog, tig, kicking a tennis ball etc. For PE there was sports day, gymnastics, swimming, ball games etc.
Why now are primary schools different? Are playing fields really being sold off, if so why? There is only one group of people to blame if sport in schools is going wrong, and that is the politicians.
In fact I suspect there is nothing wrong with sport in schools, and unless some one comes up with some hard facts to prove otherwise, I consider it to be all political waffle.
Striving to be best at sport is the quickest way of losing friends
Will someone ask Boris how a school of around 600 kids with one gym is supposed to give them all two hours sport a day. Hurdling the desks, perhaps.
Cameron daren’t admit that not just sport, but all education prospers at private schools because they have better facilities, better paid teachers and smaller class sizes, and until the state sector is brought up level, we shall have the same unbalanced society Britain has always had.
He must be slightly embarrassed that all that Olympic success only came after the government started to commit public money to supporting athletes.
There’s a lesson there for other parts of society, but as things like surestart don’t dominate the telly for hours, they are axed.
It was John Major’s Tory government that put the lottery money into sport.
Labour policy did its level best to kill competitive sport in the UK – it has been actively discouraged – primary schools no longer do sports day in case someone feels bad because they lost. All must win prizes.
Under Labour the male/female ratio of teachers in primary slipped to 1 in 7, and because it is mainly men who teach sport, sport teaching disappeared. Unless of course, your school is now paying a private firm with taxpayers money for work that used to be done voluntarily and was considered part of the job.
These things, and many others like them, including the widespread demonisation of men as all being potential paedophiles (on Labour’s watch, driven by knee jerk policy reactions to scandals) are all cultural.
The answer isn’t always money – and its certainly not only money.