How much does benefit fraud cost?
The claim
“Welfare and tax credit fraud and error costs the taxpayer £5.2bn a year.” David Cameron, article for the Manchester Evening News, 10 August 2010
Cathy Newman checks it out
The Sun’s dubbed David Cameron a “£5bn scambuster”. The PM has declared war on benefit fraudsters in a bid to cut billions from our soaring welfare bill. Today he won the approval of the tabloid headline-writers by calling in credit check companies to pursue benefit swindlers. But how much money can Cameron the Scambuster really save?
Over to the team for the analysis
£5.2bn is a big number – or as Cameron puts it in his article for the Manchester Evening News, the cost of more than 200 secondary schools or 150,000 nurses.
Department of Work and Pensions estimates benefit fraud costs £1bn a year (p11).
Putting that in some kind of perspective, the department expects to spend a total of £148bn on benefits, including income support, housing benefit, disability and unemployment payments and more. A billion pounds going AWOL isn’t to be sniffed at, but it’s worth pointing out that it’s just 0.7 per cent of total spending on these benefits.But where does the rest of Cameron’s £5.2bn come from?
Some of the missing billions can be attributed to tax credits. The taxman reckons fraudulent claims for child and working tax credits cost the public purse £460m in 2008-9.
So add this into the mix, and you get to a total fraud bill of £1.5bn, a figure which is lower than the headline-grabbing £5bn but, to be fair, one that Cameron also quoted in his article.
Errors, not fraud, account for the remainder of the £5.2bn.
Benefit and tax credit mistakes cost the taxpayer nearly £4bn, according to the most recent figures that we have. This could be down to a person filling out a form incorrectly, or a mistake in the computer system. The DWP says half of the £2.2bn benefit errors are made by claimants, and half are made by officials or the system.
Cathy Newman’s verdict
According to my pocket calculator, if you add welfare and tax credit fraud and error together, you get to £5.3bn. So David Cameron – and the Sun headline writers – have got a decimal point or two to play with. But while assessing the scale of the problem is one thing, sorting it out is quite another. Cutting the £5.3bn bill may well be easier said than done.


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How can errors by the department be counted as fraud? This is much nearer fiction than fact
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Cathy – thanks for this analysis. However, I would like you to have delved a little deeper into these statistics.
“The Department of Work and Pensions estimates…” and “the taxman reckons…”.
Both the DWP and the HMRC have an interest in downplaying these figures, so as to appear robust and efficient. But what is the methodology for these estimates? Have they been independently verified?
Also, it may be worth pointing out the scale of any erroneous underpayments – or the amount of benefits and credits that go unclaimed.
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Why does Cameron care how many nurses £5.2bn represents?
Under Lansley’s plans ALL hospitals will become social enterprises and so will no longer be publicly owned. Similarly community services (district nurses) will also be social enterprises. The NHS brand will only be the provider of funding for those social enterprises, and not a provider of healthcare. The NHS will not employ a single nurse.
So if the government saves £5.2bn under Lansley’s plans that money will not be able to pay a single nurse because not one single nurse will be employed by the NHS.
I wish Cameron would keep with the programme.
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Errors results from overcomplicated regulations (last I heard the benefits relevant to those out of work required 8000-10000 pages to describe).
Fraud results from deliberate lying by claimants.
Bundling those those to together makes little sense to me (different causes and solutions). No doubt it is usefully politically, however. Particularly if they are also keeping VERY VERY QUIET about unclaimed benefit entitlements.
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How much does tax evasion cost us, as an estimate?
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Spot on, Chris. Came on to the blog to put precisely this point.
Cathy: please can the Factcheck team dig out figures for this. We’re certainly not ‘all in this together’.
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Newsnight has just put at about £15 billion a year or about 600 schools or 600,000 nurses.
I would be happier when politicians, newspapers broadcasters etc mention benefit fraud they also mention that it is small compared with tax evasion.
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Cathy, since the new coalition came to govern, it’s been no surprise that the old Dickensian scum would come out of the woodwork and, start bashing the poor yet again. It beggars belief that these people are either as thick as two short planks or, they’re so corrupt they don’t even recognise it!
Population growth, matched with technological advancement under the scourge of Capitalism, has predictably resulted in millions out of work. Now, the media and government branding these people out of work as some king of lazy bastards, is only going to create hate. And, fiddling and manipulating stats to show a false amount of people out of work will eventually backfire. This new government is continuing the hoodwinking lies of previous governments, in depicting the out of work as less than the actual amount and, branding them all as benefit fraudsters is a disgrace.
When people find themselves out of work and, being branded as the lowest form of scum by the media, then society DESERVES these people to turn to criminality.
Britain has become a divided society of Haves and have-nots. The central government represents the Haves. They are the cause of poverty and, they DESERVE…
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So £1.5 billion of taxpayers money is being stolen and over £4 billion is being lost due to errors. According to http://www.wheredidmytaxgo.co.uk, over the last 8 years a person earning an average £18k per year would have paid £3,700 in total toward central government welfare expenditure. That’s eqiuvalent to over 1.3 million taxpayers tax contribution. What kind of errors is/has the government being making?
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Could we have a fact check on how much savings could be made if we had a ‘crackdown’ on tax fraud?
Isn’t it hypocritical to attack benefit fraudsters as ‘criminals’ when MP’s themselves have made fraudulent expenses claims and have simply had to apologise for ‘mistakes and errors’.
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The DWP’s 21st Century Welfare paper from a couple of weeks ago includes the line:
“Fraud is always wrong, but we must recognise that the benefits system is making matters worse by pushing valuable work, and the aspiration that this can engender, underground.”
Someone should tell Cameron…
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I agree with some of the statements above, fraud is always wrong, but benefit fraud is always brought up for as long as I can remember and I am sixty now, but it has been calculated that this is small change compared with tax fraud, cash in hand and black market, also the use of two sets of books small traders have.
I think it is about time the media delves into this area so there can be some comparison as people are try to ignore this area, as this can affect the small business severely for the honest ones.
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politicians focussing on Benefit fraud while in effect ignoring the 4 times as much wasted through admin errors in the benefits system, is just posturing and playing to the easy targets so beloved of our predominantly right wing Press.
Will we be told how much this purge of the “fraudsters” will cost, and will we be told how much will be invested in reducing the cost of admin errors and Recouping the many Billions lost to Tax Fraud?
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Although there is no excuse for benefit fraud,(it is a crime after all) Mr Cameron seems to have omitted to mention the amount of benefit which goes UNCLAIMED each year, it would be interesting a VERY interesting development if he were to try to gain some political capital by hunting for the people to whom it rightly belongs.
Not much chance of that though, is there.
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The thumbs don’t work! Please rectify asap. Would like to have ticked several of above comments. There isn’t always time to write to each entry, so using thumbs can give C4News and those reading the blog – including coalition politicians – a snapshot of what its followers are thinking. That’s important.
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I’ve been employed in the Welfare Benefit arena for around 38 years, first paying it out then investigating the frauds, now for last 8 years prosecuting Benefit Fraudsters. In all that time I have never come across a case where the HM Revenue would provide information, assist in investigations or deal with a prosecution jointly. Its hardly surprising therefore that they are going to provide information about their laxical administration & investigation of Tax matters. Maybe its about time for HMRC got off their high horse & either accept help from Benefit Investigators or thro legislation make them provide information.
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Well I’ve been investigated for benefits fraud while in hospital having a plate put into my spine, and shunt placed into my spinal cord.
I’m classed as Paraplegic now because my bowel and bladder do not function, I also had two massively smashed up legs broken ribs, a fracture to my neck. I then had MRSA twice, I was in hospital when some neighbor reported me for working, saying we never ever see him at home he is always off in the morning working. I was actually in hospital for eighteen months on traction, being given Morphine to stop the pain causing fits.
I’m now home and have been told that even though walking is impossible, I mess myself each day, no control, and I need to push a catheter into my bladder down my penis, I’m told well thats not as bad as it seems.
My neighbor who came over to my wife and told her she had reported us for working, sad I’m sick and tired of people on benefits.
She has three kids lives along is about 53 and has never done a days work in her life, but according to her mother hood is something the government accepts and she feels that people like her do not get enough, she was moaning because I have a car which is adapted for me to…
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As a Benefit Fraud Investigator with over 20 years experience, who has contracted to Local Authorities all over the country I can say that Camerons figure of £5 billion to be about correct, although I would think it even higher. There is so much money overpaid that is not even classed as fraud because we dont have the resources to prove it, and if we can’t prove it it’s not recorded as Fraudulent.
There are so many scammers out there who get away with it, as again we don’t have the resources.
PS. Oldchimer, you can get info from HMRC, you need to signup through LACORS, see LAIOG Forum.
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Unless things have changed greatly in the last 20years (something I doubt given that Social Welfare and Benefits Fraud was a very time consuming and complex issue and must still be) the Benefits Fraud Investigators are hampered by overwhelmed resource and insufficient time. Because of the complexity even when Police were asked to help there were very few Detectives who could master the complexities of the Benefits System and payment process.
As Benjamin wrote above, the actual amount of fraud then and now probably exceeds best guesstimates but unless society truly starts to see benefit fraud as not only a crime against society but, in reality, a reduction in funds for the truly deserving, the resource and effort to reduce benefit fraud will remain insufficient.
Matters are not helped by the Chancellor announcing that three instances of Benefits Fraud will lead to a 3 year ban. What good does that do?
They ban people from keeping dogs for LIFE if they abuse dogs for ONE instance… why should someone who abuses Benefits not be banned from Benefits forever too – they steal money that could go to the really needy who don’t turn to crime to get what they feel they need!
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The problem is of course I get IB and DLA, I’m classed by the medical profession of having Paraplegia.
From the waist down nothing works no sexual function no bladder and no bowel.
Now then if tomorrow I won the Lottery lets say for a laugh £100 million, it will not affect my benefits because I do not get any means tested benefits, my money comes from the 30 years of stamps I paid for National insurance.
But what is the worse crime, it’s not from the sick the disabled or the poor sods on the JSA, it’s actually first of all mistakes by the DWP, then it’s criminal activity, people who run scams of dead children’s names, send for the birth certificate and claim funds.
A lot is done by groups of immigrants who have come here to claim benefits and commit a crime.
They do say 0.05% of claims might be and I say might be iffy. not a lot really.
Blair spent £350 million with his new crime police, and what did he save for this great amount of money £9 million most of that was due to over payments due to benefits people not be up on the new regimes.
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Is there any chance that these figures could be updated (either 2012 or 2013 figures)?
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