FactCheck: student fees in England highest in world?
“Can the Prime Minister confirm that after his changes are introduced, English students will pay the highest fees of any public university system in the industrialised world?”
Labour leader Ed Miliband, PMQs, 8 December 2010
“The figures are well-known about what students will pay.
They are much lower
than what students for instance pay
in the United States.”
David Cameron, PMQs, 8 December 2010
The background
Tutition fees have become the biggest test of the Coalition yet – and in advance of tomorrow’s vote, the party leaders were having a dress rehersal in the Commons today. Ed Miliband thinks he can gain from a divided Liberal Democrat party – so he chose to highlight the cost of a higher education in Britain compared to the rest of the world.
The analysis
FactCheck called the office of Shadow Business Secretary John Denham to find out where the “highest fees” claim came from.
Note his careful use of the phrase ‘public universities’. That doesn’t include the many private institutions in the US, including the Ivy League’s Harvard and Yale which are among the most expensive in the world. In contrast here in Britain the vast majority are public – currently just two are private.
We were told the claim was from an article written by respected education campaigner Sir Peter Lampl – who founded the Sutton Trust, which aims to get more students from disadvantaged backgrounds into universities.
In the Times last month he wrote that “tuition fees in England will become by far the highest charged by publicly funded universities around the world”.
The Department for Business are responsible for universities. They sent FactCheck their research about the cost of education in the States: it shows average tuition fees charged by public universities in the US in 2009-10 were £4,252 a year in a student’s home state and £11,234 in another state. So that’s an annual average of £7,743 – which is lower that the the proposed maximum of £9,000.
The department’s source was the College Board in the US. We got in touch with them directly, and they provided more recent figures showing costs have gone up. Average tuition fees at public colleges are now £4,808 and £17,257 at private institutions – so across all universities the average is now actually £11,032. That’s actually higher than what could be charged here.
A list of the most expensive US public universities shows the costliest is the University of Pittsburgh – with fees of £8,148 a year.
Back here, Universities UK said it couldn’t say what universities would charge after 2012, when higher fees are introduced. And that’s an important point – because it’s safe to presume not all universities will charge the top limit of £9,000. So, we just don’t yet know who will charge what and so what the average will be.
FactCheck didn’t forget about the rest of the world – but fees in Europe, Canada and Australia are all considerably lower than in the States.
The verdict
The latest figures from the College Board show that the average tuition fees at public universities in the US are £4,808 a year – considerably lower than the £9,000 limit universities will be able to charge here.
So, Mr Miliband seems right on fees in England at public institutions being among the highest in the industrialised world. For that we’ve got to give him a fact rating, and the Prime Minister a fiction rating.
Unless we give Mr Cameron the benefit of the doubt – and say he was either taking the average of public and private (which we know is £11,032), or just looking at private (more like £19,000 a year).
It’s also important to remember that in this country there will be a student support package in place which will mitigate these costs for some of the poorest students.



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Why are you only comparing with USA universities? The difference is very striking with other european countries. Netherlands 1000 of euro is one of the higher.
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“..The latest figures from the College Board show that the average tuition fees at public universities in the US are £4,808 a year – considerably lower than the £9,000 limit universities will be able to charge here..”
You are comparing an average figure with a maximum permissible figure.
You are comparing oranges and apples. What will the AVERAGE English fee be? The vast majority of English universities will not be charing the maximum permissible fee.
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With an 80% drop in funding the chances are that £7000 is the figure most universities will have to charge, and when raising fees to that level they then incur a £2000 government levy thus ensuring that £7000 is always £9000, both a maximum and average.
Of course it might be possible for universities to make savings somewhere and avoid the £7000 (really £9000) annual fee. However, there will (at least initially) be a drop in number of students which means a drop in funding, which demands even greater savings.
This is a huge hike in fees, that will see another large hike within a year of coming on to force; we do need to increase university budgets and all the Brown proposal does is swap public for private cash, and £9000 is just enough for now and in two years it won’t.
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How do you know what the majority of universities will be charging. It depends on what they need to raise to make up for the cuts from government. It may also create a divide between more expensive parts of the country such as London vs areas where costs of living etc are not as high
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But the ConDems MUST increase fees to enable them to make an 80% cuts to the University teaching budgets. The 80% cut is necessary so we can afford things like aircraft carriers (without aircraft), happiness indexes, private PM camera staff, bailing out Irish banks, etc. We have to get our priorities right after all.
Of course the Conservatives have shown Clegg a big hole in the ground and Clegg has leapt in without thinking, dragging in most of his party and they are still digging frantically and the hole is getting deeper and deeper and they want us all to believe and support them next spring when the AV referendum happens. Do they really think we are complete suckers ? And who will be surprised when after the AV referendum Clegg turns round and says “actually I meant … and just didn’t tell you … and we have to live in the real world … and I regret … sorry suckers”.
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Cathy,
Well done for comparing university fees to USA levels.
This is valid because that is where the Tories are trying to take us, though they haven’t the guts to say so – they know very well that if the British people were asked if they wanted American health and education systems here they would blow the Yanks and the Tory Plastic Yanks a very loud raspberry.
We need to return to education free at the point of use, funded from general taxation. Furthermore, if the Tories chased their “creators of wealth” friends for full payment of due taxes there would be more than enough money to fund it.
Perhaps your next FactCheck should be an analysis of the amount of tax fraud and avoidance there is by large companies and rich individuals. The Tory-LibDem-Vodafone tax scam is just the tip of the iceberg.
Congratulations on these FactChecks. They illustrate how political lies are the standard for cheating our society out of its national wealth. I wonder how long it will be before some establishment figure “has a word” with your news editors?
Keep it up. Please continue to expose ALL politicians of ALL parties when they lie to us.
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Sorry but your maths doesn’t add up.
“…average tuition fees charged by public universities in the US in 2009-10 were £4,252 a year in a student’s home state and £11,234 in another state. So that’s an annual average of £7,743″
The annual average given here is the sum of those two numbers halved. This implies that exactly half of students study in their home state and half do not. You make the same mistake later on in the article when you show the £11,032 figure.
You later state that “…average tuition fees at public universities in the US are £4,808 a year”, given the figures above, therefore 92% of US students at public universities study in their home state.
It would appear that you’ve got confused over some of the numbers in this article, so should give yourself a fiction rating.
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I’m confused by the following two passages:
“shows average tuition fees charged by public universities in the US in 2009-10 were £4,252 a year in a student’s home state and £11,234 in another state. So that’s an annual average of £7,743 – which is lower that the the proposed maximum of £9,000.”
Averaging public fees in home state vs. other states with:
“We got in touch with them directly, and they provided more recent figures showing costs have gone up. Average tuition fees at public colleges are now £4,808 and £17,257 at private institutions – so across all universities the average is now actually £11,032. That’s actually higher than what could be charged here.”
which averages public and private fees. Is this a typo or not?
As US public universities charge different fees to ‘home’ students from that state than students from other states, the first seems a valid statistic as it is an ‘average’ fee charged by public universities in the US.b The second, which seems to average public and private fees, does not appear to be an updated statistic, but something different.
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You cannot take two tuition levels (in-state and out-of-state, or public and private) and simply split the difference to determine the “average” fee. Many more students at public universities in the US attend in-state than out, so that average will be lower; I don’t know about the public/private splits. If you’re going to use a statistics-based argument, this does not inspire confidence.
Adding to Pete’s issue above with your choices of comparison, I would reject the notion that it is reasonable to compare the fees across all public institutions in the two countries. The funding set-ups are wildly different, with many public institutions in the US relying mostly on private funding and competitive grant money. There are a lot more shoddy or technical schools in the US that are called universities than in Britain, which will deflate the average figures in the US.
Some “fact check”.
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This is riddled with errors. You’re comparing public and private universities. Most universities in the USA are STATE universities and state funded, these are the equivalent of the British unis. Your figures are wrong too:
“Public four-year colleges charge, on average, $7,605 per year in tuition and fees for in-state students. The average surcharge for full-time out-of-state students at these institutions is $11,990.
Private nonprofit four-year colleges charge, on average, $27,293 per year in tuition and fees.”
From, College Board.
Also, you are comparing average fees over there (with public and private, not state, although they are still the wrong figures) against a maximum allowed fee over here. That does not add up mathematically, you can not compare the 2 figures like for like.
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“it shows average tuition fees charged by public universities in the US in 2009-10 were £4,252 a year in a student’s home state and £11,234 in another state. So that’s an annual average of £7,743″
That is not correct. You need to know the number of each type of institution. There are far more public universities, so your figure will be vastly lower.
England will have the highest fees in the WORLD, eek!
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