FactCheck: Ed Balls tackles the banking beast
The claim
“George Osborne has actually delivered a tax cut for the banks compared to last year, even after today’s announcement.”
Ed Balls MP, responding to the Chancellors’ increased bank levy, February 8, 2011
Cathy Newman checks it out
If George Osborne had been a tennis ace, you’d accuse him of trying to wrongfoot his opponent: lobbing the ball in the wrong direction so Ed Balls had no hope of whacking it back.
Ahead of their first match in the Commons since the new shadow chancellor was appointed, Mr Osborne’s announcement of an £800m banking levy looked like a move to distract Labour from the fact that nothing’s been done to curb bonuses. Mr Balls isn’t so easily fooled. So did he correctly see through the chancellor – and did that enable him to get on the front foot?
The background
George Osborne today announced he’d be increasing the levy on bank profits by £800m – taking the total to £2.5bn. He also promised to make it permanent.
We FactChecked Labour’s complaint last month that the coalition’s bank levy amounted to a tax cut for the banks this year – compared to Labour’s one-off bank bonus tax which reaped £3.5bn gross last year.
And today, Ed Balls still isn’t satisfied – even with the hike in rates it’s still a cut, he claims. So who’s right?
The Treasury argues that Labour’s £3.5bn is a gross figure – the net gain was more like £2.3bn.
The Office of Budget Responsibility explained to FactCheck that’s because the Treasury thinks around £1.2bn was lost in National Insurance and income tax payments last year due to banks lowering their bonus payouts.
So how does Labour’s £2.3bn compare with what the Tories are promising? Well, the Treasury’s own press release from today puts the net figure for the fiscal year 2011-12 at £1.9bn – quite a bit shy of the £2.5bn pledged by the chancellor.
The Treasury told FactCheck that the reason Mr Osborne quotes £2.5bn is that the banking levy taxes the banks’ balance sheets which are based on the accounting period January – December.
It plans to collect the banking levy in the same way that it collects corporation tax – which means that by April 2012 it will have only collected three quarters of what is owed by the banks.
“There will always be delays between what’s announced and what’s collected – you only need look at all the past Budgets to see that,” Mike Warburton, director of Grant Thornton told us.
So comparing the bank levy with Labour’s bonus tax is rather pointless, says Mr Warburton.
An annual banks levy is worth a great deal more than a one-off tax, as the Prime Minister himself has argued.
Yet, abandon the bank bonus tax and you’re left with more in the profits pot to be taxed by the bank levy – which in the long term could put banks off from doing business in the UK.
“We’re damn lucky to have banks like HSBC based in London, we don’t want to put them off,” Mr Warburton said.
Indeed, alongside Barclays, HSBC is leading the rebound in the banking sector – with the two expected to have made more than £15bn between them last year.
Cathy Newman’s verdict
This year, the banking levy will deliver £1.9bn. So that’s £600m short of the £2.5bn outlined by the Chancellor, and less than the £2.3bn secured by Labour the previous year. So Ed Balls can indeed argue that the banks have got a tax cut. But what’s a few hundred million to George Osborne? He succeeded in his political aim today by unveiling a headline-grabbing, banker-bashing initiative. And in the current climate of public hostility towards the bankers, that’s probably priceless.
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Got to love Fact Check. On the subject of taxes on the financial sector, I wondered if you had read this by George Monbiot?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/07/tax-city-heist-of-century
A fact check on that would be a really interesting read.
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Excellent work. I would also like to see Fact Check investigate the changes to corporate tax structure that Jon_S identified. I am quite shocked this story is so far under the radar.
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The banks may be rebounding but shareholders of Lloyds are still not getting a dividend
this suggests it is a bank not doing so well
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the key to this is that the Labour tax was a one off. If they had wanted to make it more than one year, why did they not do so at the time. The coalition Govt tax is an on going tax, so after the second year it will have raised more tax than the Labour tax. They now say that they would have put the tax on again this year. If so, why did they not say so at the time?
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Here here. And its also worth noting that last year, the banks made hardly any money and so paid hardly any corporation tax this year. Regardless of tax cut or raise, banks are now paying more tax, period.
I note Kathy’s calculations have made no note whatsoever of the huge number of hedge funds that have moved out of the UK, who will now now contribute at all to the UK exchequer. Arguing about tax in terms of % is irrelevant next to the total amount paid: Labour’s policy would have been a cause of personal taxation rises.
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The real tax cuts to banks and other wealthy corporations will come through changes to the tax acts of 1988 and 2009.
See George Monbiot’s Guardian article at http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/07/tax-city-heist-of-century
No wonder the banks aren’t really bothered by Osborne’s political gesture which will cost them peanuts compared to the other gains they will make (and which Osborne is keeping very quiet about).
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Cathy,
““We’re damn lucky to have banks like HSBC based in London, we don’t want to put them off,” Mr Warburton said.”
Yeah, right, Mr. Warburton.
Now……tell me again, Mr. Warburton, who was it got us into this latest rip off in the first place?
And, let me get this right, Mr. Warburton, you want us to be worried the guilty parties might do one to bank casinos in the USA or more likely Switzerland?
Cathy, can you next time do a FactCheck to see if said Mr. Warburton has a brain? Or perhaps that he’s a half-baker and not in banking?
Thanks for another sterling job, pun half intended.
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‘The Treasury told FactCheck that the reason Mr Osborne quotes £2.5bn is that the banking levy taxes the banks’ balance sheets which are based on the accounting period January – December.’
What they actually should have said is that, like almost every politician,especially his mate Cameron, Osborne will manipulate figures to suit him and to hell with reality.
The only statistic that counts in this is that many of those banks would have been out of business without the taxpayers at whom they are now thumbing their nose with a thumb well greased from counting their obscene bonuses.
These people have shown they are not particularly clever and certainly not moral. Why are we cowtowing to them while, largely thanks to their mistakes, we are freezing the pay of people who do important work like nurses and the police?
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The reason why the UK has a large current deficit is that our tax receipts fell by more than ten percent.
And tax receipts are still falling in real terms.
Most of the drop in tax receipts is because Banks took advantage of the hiatus to claim lots of potential bad debts they hadn’t got yet. Only banks have HMRC & BoE permission to do this!
Fortunately, Balls & Brown arranged to pay off the debts and high interest borrowing the government inherited in 1997. Nowadays we only pay 3% of national income on national debt interest. So we can afford to sit out this global downturn, and collect the back-tax from banks once its over.
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Yes Please Fact Check – Kathy – Can someone please check out Monbiot’s report – it blows the so called ‘coming down hard on the banks’ thing out of the water if it’s the case. I’m beginning to wonder if someone has been twisting the Media’s arm to only report Osborne/Chauncey Gardner telling everyone that it’s all Rosy in the Garden
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