FactCheck: Did Piers Morgan boast about phone hacking?
The claim
“Piers Morgan – now a celebrity anchor on CNN – said openly in his book, which, clearly, was published before this controversy broke, that he had hacked phones. He said that he won scoop of the year for a story about Ulrika Jonsson and Sven-Goran Eriksson. He actually gave a tutorial in how one accesses voicemail by punching in a set default code. Clearly, from the account that he gives, he did it routinely as editor of the Daily Mirror.”
Louise Mensch MP, Culture Select Committee hearing on phone hacking, 19 July 2011
The background
A smiling Louise Mensch leant into CNN‘s camera last night to tell Piers Morgan she was “perfectly content with everything (she) said in the Select Committee, without the need for review”.
It was the taunting end to an extraordinary, heated exchange, which saw Morgan battling potentially career-crucifying comments.
Piers Morgan said: “As she may now be aware, she came out with an absolute blatant lie in the proceedings…what she did today was a deliberate and outrageous attempt to smear my name, CNN’s name, The Daily Mirror’s name and I think her now to have the breathtaking gall to just sit here calmly…”
But Mensch (pictured, right) said: “I feel no need to apologise”.
During the hearing, Mensch said Morgan was “very open about his personal use of phone hacking” in his book. She claimed he boasted about using the little trick to win Scoop of the Year in 2003 and that it was this casual attitude that “was part of the general culture of corruption in the British tabloid press”.
It’s not the first time that MPs have thrown the net wider than the News of the World in this scandal, but do the other red tops deserve this flak? And is Mensch right about Morgan, or is it a smear?
The analysis
FactCheck has dug out a copy of The Insider – which was first published in 2004. According to Morgan’s entry on 18 April 2002, the Scoop of the Year – the affair between England manager Sven Goran Eriksson and Ulrika Jonsson – was brought to him by his “new news supremo” Richard Wallace (current editor of The Mirror).
Morgan says he put a call in to Jonsson’s agent Melanie Cantor, who coughed up after he “put it to her straight”, but other than that he offers no details on how Wallace got the story.
Yet, continuing to take his book at face value, Morgan had known about the practice of phone hacking for more than a year. He does mention phone hacking, albeit just once, in his book – on January 26, 2001 (pictured below).
He explained he was mystified as to how a story hit the press about him being investigated by the Department of Trade and Industry over insider trading.
He wrote: “But someone suggested today that people might be listening to my mobile phone messages. Apparently, if you don’t change the security code that every phone comes with then anyone can call your number and, if you don’t answer, tap in the four digit code to hear all your messages. I’ll change mine just in case but it makes me wonder how many public figures and celebrities are aware of this little trick.”
So yes, Mensch is right that he gives his readers a tutorial in phone hacking, but this is quite blatantly not an open admission from Morgan that he hacked phones, routinely or at all.
It does however prove he was aware of it. And if he knew, how many others did?
This is what Mensch wanted to know, when she put it to James Murdoch that everyone was at it.
Mensch based her argument on the findings of Operation Motorman, the original investigation into private eye Steve Whittamore, who was convicted of passing information obtained from the police national database to newspapers.
In 2006, an overview of the Operation – What Price Privacy Now? – the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO), listed the publications whose journalists were “customers” of Whittamore.
Daily Mail journalists topped the list, with 58 journalists identified as dealing with Whittamore on 952 different occasions. Tot up all the titles however, and Trinity Mirror trumps the Daily Mail and General Trust (DMGT) – with 1,692 dealings with Whittamore. Of the 305 journalists involved in the case, 117 worked for Trinity Mirror titles and 98 for the DMGT.
The Press Complaints Commission, which has been described by Lib Dem MP Adrian Sanders as a “fishnet condom” for complaints, told FactCheck that to date it has received just one official complaint over phone hacking, and that was dropped.
Mr Sanders told the Commons earlier this month: “We need to extend this beyond News International. Operation Motorman highlighted that it was the Daily Mail that was the most prolific in the trade of illicit personal information, while the Mirror under the auspices of Piers Morgan is suspected for example of using voicemail interception to reveal Sven Goran Eriksson’s affair with Ulrika Jonsson.”
The verdict
Piers Morgan is big enough and ugly enough to fight his own battles. But in the absence of any confession to phone hacking in his book, FactCheck can’t let Louise Mensch skip off into the sunset with her cloak of parliamentary privilege flapping in Morgan’s face.
Under parliamentary privilege, MPs have the right to say whatever they like in the House and they can’t be sued for libel for doing so.
But will she say it without that protection? Mensch has refused. Instead she refers America’s journalists to what she said in the Select Committee.
Perhaps they’ll get past her whoppers about Morgan’s book and pick up on her wider point: sniffing out corruption beyond News International’s gates.
Could this trail lead to The Mirror? Trinity Mirror says its position is clear: “Our journalists work within the criminal law and the PCC code of conduct”.
Yet David Cameron himself said in the Commons today: “I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mirror has to answer questions soon”.
By Emma Thelwell



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I think someone needs to ask James “Scottie” Scott about this one. Preferably under oath.
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I think Ms Mensch was wrong in this instance. She sourced her information from a dubious source
@GuidoFawkes and did not read the book she quotes Mr Morgan from.
Mr Morgan is therefore quite right to call Ms Mensch out on it, and he does it as strongly as he does because he knows he is on safe ground.
Having said that, does anyone really believe Mr Morgan who was already sacked for duplicity in the mid -90′s, did not condone the use of ‘dark arts’ during his tenure as editor of The Mirror?
Well… that’s another story.
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I can assure James’s lips are sealed.
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Mrs Mensch came across very poorly in the CNN exchange of words between herself and Piers Morgan. Her smirking attitude was wholly unsuitable to the context considering she was effectively being accused (correctly) of having committed libel and her attempts to turn the tables back by accusing Mr Morgan of “threatening” her ludicrous. I’m no fan of Mr Morgan – he’s a bit pompous really – but I’m an even lesser fan of the bare-faced ignorance and lack of humility exhibited by Mrs Mensch. Mr Morgan works according to the rules of the free market and can be hired and fired depending on the ebb and flow of public demand for his services – while sadly the British populace has another 4 years to evict Mrs Mensch from her position! Not fair.
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Your analysis is a bit of a muddle. It doesn’t matter what we think of Morgan (or of Mensch but I don’t have a view on her because i had not heard of her until she appeared on the Murdoch panel) or the wider issues, Mensch is plain wrong.
The quotes from the book are wrong and when that is put to her, instead of apologising, she refers back to her statements and says she will not bow to Morgan’s threats (when he was not making any).
We remain uncertain about many things in this investigation but one thing is clear.
Louis Mensch is a liar and not fit to hold office.
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If you accept that Piers Morgan has most likely published papers with stories based on phone hacking, then Morgan’s book’s reference to knowledge of hacking and his suspicion that it is used by journalists could be interpreted as a “read-between-the-lines” admission of using it himself. So “on the balance of probabilities”, you might find in favour of Mensch, by interpreting the book as being as “open” as Morgan possibly could be without exposing himself.
But… when it comes to a context-free objective analysis based on the short quoted section of the book, then it’s unarguably not an “open” admission of using hacking. Morgan’s lawyers would have pored carefully over these words prior to publication to ensure Morgan could have his cake (entertaining the audience) and eat it (without putting himself at risk).
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I thought Mrs Mensch did excellently during the Select Committee hearing but – having read The Insider several times and re-played what she said – she was wrong on three points.The Insider was not published recently, Piers Morgan was aware of the vulnerability of voicemail insofar as he feared for the security of his own and, finally, he does not relate voicemail messages to the appearance of the S.V.E story at all. I think Louise is very wise not to engage him on this outside parliament because she wouldn’t come out of the argument well.
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If you read the whole paragraph it is obvious
Like many Piers was not aware of hacking untill he was a victim when his private meetings with the DTI became public he couldn’t understand what was happening to him untill he was told he should change the security settings on his phone to protect himself.
In his book he passes on the advice he received on enabling security settings on your phone to people reading his book so they can protect themselves also.
How is this a “tutorial in phone hacking”
This woman is a bitch and obviously wants to get at Piers for printing harsh reviews of her s****y fantasy novels in the ten years he was editor at the Mirror.
Cameron, George Osbourne and the conservatives have carried a grudge for years against the Mirror for being a Labour paper and Morgan for going public about David Cameron and George Osborne snorting cocaine.
The conservatives are in bed with NI/C if there hadn’t been a hung parliament NI/C would have BskyB by now. Mensch and her party are bastards. They have achieved their goal of gettting the Brooks The Murdochs and themselves out of the spotlight and off the agenda.
I really hope these people get whats…
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I was a bit taken back at this line of questioning from Ms (I’m still going to be touch despite the foam) Mensch.
By the time it came to her turn to question the Murdochs it was patently clear that they didn’t have a real grasp of what was going on at the News of the World. So why did she think James Murdoch was going to be able to blow the whistle on other red tops? It was a waste of a question.
She was also pretty damn quick to charge out of the commons on to C4News where she took Jon Snow by surprise by attacking the tory back-bench committee which had been grumbling about Cameron.
Then in yesterday’s debate there came a simpering intervention to curry favour with the boss.
Look out for promotion any time soon.
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Ms Mensch was clearly poorly prepared for the Select Committee meeting. That was why she made irrelevant accusations against both Morgan and the Daily Mail. Morgan exposed her lack of research in the CNN clip. She is not fit to be an MP (and the voters of Corby should know this by now). Perhaps she was selected under pressure from Conservative Central Office? Clearly a lot of people will be following Ms Mench’s career very closely in future.
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I’d be interested to know if any of the above witchfinders are (covert) employees of the accused organisations.
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No not an employee current or ex of NI but do have an interest in facts and honesty. In critcising Louise Mensch I am not standing up for Murdoch. They are two separate issues.
The issue here is that an MP has exposed herself as an idiot and a liar. That is irrefutable is it not? If i am wrong, please explain why, rather than suggesting that people who point out her idiocy and lies are part of “the accused organisations”.
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Cathy,
Mensch screwed up a perfect opportunity, which is still there if she wants to follow it up.
All she has to do now is ask Morgan:
“When did you get to know about phone hacking? In what circumstances? Who told you? Who else have you discussed this with? Has anyone told you they have hacked phones? Can you provide specific examples of phone hacking by journalists, and from which newspapers or other media?”
Come to think of it…..if she won’t, why won’t Channel 4?
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Would I buy a second hand car from Loise Mench/Bagshawe ? No! She would probably require it to be collected from the Palace of Westminster, and if it turned out to be a pile of rubbish, possibly
like her books, she would claim parliamentary privilege. How this self publicist lightweight ever
got selected to stand by the toties heaven knows.
Piers Morgan gotcha my dear. Go away and find something else to do ! Moteagle may have to re-visit
parliament.
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Louise Mensch appears to have made a mistake about her source, which has led to a lot of subsequent confusion. The comments she attributed to Morgan’s book were actually made by him in an interview in GQ magazine:
“It was pretty well-known that if you didn’t change your pin code when you were a celebrity who bought a new phone, then reporters could ring your mobile, tap in a standard factory setting number and hear your messages. That is not, to me, as serious as planting a bug in someone’s house, which is what some people seem to think was going on [...] But loads of newspaper journalists were doing it. Clive Goodman, the NOTW reporter, has been made the scapegoat for a very widespread practice.”
Although Morgan doesn’t anywhere admit to actually intercepting voicemail himself,it’s pretty clear that he was well aware that it was going on.
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Date, edition, link?
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Hi jac,
An entire feature from GQ magazine wouldn’t be available online but the issue and quote he writes about are in this Guardian Online post http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/feb/26/pressandpublishing.uknews
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February 2011:
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2011-02/04/gq-comment-piers-morgan-naomi-campbell-interview/pictures
It’s been widely re-published across the web.
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Thanks, Rachel. I do like attribution. The article says it’s the April edition, presumably 2007. In the interview with Naomi Campbell he also clearly states the the use of mobile phones came after his time as editor. I do like attribution.
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