FactCheck: did Labour MEPS vote for a 6% rise in EU budget?
The claim
“The European Parliament has insisted on a higher budget than the one set by the Council, and the first thing is to say that is not acceptable and to build a majority on that Council to get that budget down again. This would be easier if Labour MEPs did not keep voting for higher budgets, as they had this week.”
Prime Minister David Cameron, PMQs, 27 October
“I have to say he’d have a bit more credibility on controlling the public finances if his (Labour) colleagues in the European Parliament hadn’t just voted for the 6 per cent rise in the European budget.”
Treasury Chief Secretary Danny Alexander, Commons, 28 October
The background
The EU’s institutions, and member states, are currently involved in prolonged horsetrading over next year’s European budget.
It is 122.9bn euros this year, and the Commission and Parliament are proposing a six per cent rise to 130.1bn in 2011.
The Council of Ministers (finance ministers from throughout the EU) is arguing for the increase to be restricted to three per cent.
David Cameron wants a cash freeze next year, but Britain doesn’t have a veto, and it’s likely a compromise will be reached.
The analysis
The Prime Minister and Treasury Chief Secretary were referring to a vote held in the European Parliament on 20 October.
MEPs were voting on the proposal to increase the size of the budget by six per cent.
Voting records show Labour Euro-MPs voted against this, as did Conservative and Liberal Democrat MEPs.
But on an amendment proposed by Conservative MEPs to freeze the budget at 2010 levels (in other words, cut it in real terms), Labour MEPs voted against. Instead, they proposed a 1bn euro cut in agricultural subsidies.
Of the eight Lib Dem MEPs who voted, seven voted for the amendment, while one voted against.
The verdict
When Mr Cameron made his point in the Commons, the implication was that Labour MEPs had voted for a six per cent rise in the EU budget. Mr Alexander was even clearer.
They hadn’t: in fact they had voted against. But Labour MEPs opposed a Conservative amendment to freeze the budget at 2010 levels.
By failing to support this amendment, it could be argued, in the Prime Minister’s words, that they were “voting for higher budgets”.
But the amendment never had any chance of going through, given the size of the vote in favour of increasing the budget by six per cent (546 in favour-88 against).
Our verdict has to be fiction on this occasion.


There are 10 comments on this post
“Our verdict has to be fiction on this occasion”
Cathy,when it comes to the ConDems, you can scrub round the “on this occasion”.
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It doesn’t matter whether it had any chance of going through or not!
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We need to Fact check the fact check – There were many many votes on many many ammendments and labour voted on many to increase the budget (i.e. £1.5m to their TU chums). It is therefore fair to say they voted to increase the budget on many occasions, before the final votes on teh whole package.
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You are quite right to point out that some Labour MEPs voted against a freeze on the EU Budget but also voted against the 5.9% Budget Increase.
The following ten of Labour’s thirteen MEPs voted against such a freeze:
* Richard Howitt
* Stephen Hughes
* Michael Cashman
* Arlene McCarthy
* David Martin
* Brian Simpson
* Peter Skinner
* Catherine Stihler
* Derek Vaughan
* Glenis Willmott
Unfortunately this exposes the hypocrisy of the Labour Party which, in the words of Labour’s Shadow Europe Minister, Wayne David, seem rather shallow, since David has said that “… it is imperative that we have a freeze on the EU budget”.
Labour are saying one thing in London and doing another in Brussels.
This merely highlights the Labour Party politicians are playing party politics rather than of pursuing what is best for the UK and looking after the tax-paying citizens who will be paying more of their income to subsidise the EU when times are financially tough enough as it is due to the need to reduce the UK’s National Debt.
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Did Wayne David mean a cash freeze or a real terms freeze? I suspect it was the latter since a cash freeze at the 2010 level would be a real terms cut. It was this real terms cut that Labour voted against.
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Why would anybody expect Cameron to “tell the truth” when just making stuff up and lies support his own opinions and sway public opinion much more.
When Cameron was seeking our votes we were led to believe he wanted a more honest, more open government. Many would have assumed that not only meant the end of spin but also the end of direct factual lies. Such people were clearly very mistaken.
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This is not accurate. Labour MEPs did vote on many many occasions to increase the budget – this is public record. Also to say that because something was probably going to be voted down is an excuse to also vote against it is rubbish! Also why do you not publish my comments – you afraid of being shown up for taking your facts from a leftfootforward article by Glenis Willmot?.
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the labor party are absolutely shameless, without conviction and abhorrent. thank god they are not in power.
in comparison the coalition are doing things for the best of the country
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Voting to increase certain parts of the overall EU buedget while voting against an increase overall to my mind equals voting against an increase. Even within the coalition’s cuts, some areas of expenditure continue to rise. So the arguments that some Labour MEPs voted for some increases are specious – just like Cameron’s claims.
I wonder if it had been a Labour Government making similar claims about Conservative MEPs, how many contributors to these comments would have praised “Factcheck”? Prejudice is so much more comforting than evidence, isn’t it!
Keep up the good work, Cathy!
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