FactCheck: Anger off the charts as pensions showdown looms
“The fundamental mistake the trades unions are making is that the chart assumes that the reforms have taken place. They are the post-reform costs.”
Lord Hutton of Furness, 14 September 2011
The background
A blistering row between the man charged with reforming Britain’s public sector pensions and the unions who oppose his plane broke out this week, with the threat of mass strikes hanging in the air.
The unions made a number of concessions on pensions under the last government, agreeing to raise the age of retirement from 60 to 65, and calculating pension payments based on career average earnings rather than final salary for new joiners.
Then Lord Hutton of Furness produced a report in March this year that went further.
The Labour peer’s most important recommendation was that state workers should retire even later to reflect the fact that people are living longer and offset the rising cost of pensions to the taxpayer.
Coming on the back of government moves to increase pension contributions and reduce the value of payouts by switching to a different measure of inflation, that was a bridge too far for the unions.
Leaders seized on one piece of research in Lord Hutton’s final report. It’s this chart on page 23, which is at the heart of this week’s angry exchanges:
These projections, courtesy of boffins at the Government Actuary’s Department, show the cost of pensions as a percentage of the country’s total wealth peaking this year then falling in the future.
That would appear to undermine the government’s case that pressing reform is needed, and add fuel to the unions’ argument that public sector pensions are already affordable and sustainable and should be left alone.
But Lord Hutton has obviously become impatient with opponents of reform, seizing on this one part of his report to try to rubbish his recommendations.
He was quoted in the Financial Times this week as saying: “The fundamental mistake the trades unions are making is that the chart assumes that the reforms have taken place. They are the post-reform costs.”
If that were true, and the chart was a projection of a post-Hutton Commission future rather than a reflection of the way things stand now, it would blow the unions’ arguments out of the water.
Lord Hutton appeared to suggest that was indeed the case when he told the Guardian that the graph “basically assumed the proposals I suggested were introduced”.
His words aroused anger among union leaders, with Mark Serwotka, general secretary of the Public and Commercial Services Union, writing a letter to the FT accusing Lord Hutton of misunderstanding his own report and of being “disingenuous”.
The analysis
It’s fairly clear from both the Hutton Commission’s interim and final reports that the GAD’s analysis does in fact reflect the current pensions landscape now and doesn’t take into account in its calculations that effect of the future changes Lord Hutton is recommending.
To be fair to Lord Hutton, that’s something he was happy to acknowledge straight away when contacted by FactCheck, blaming the row on misunderstandings of what he was trying to say in earlier interviews.
He said: “We’re all talking slightly at cross-purposes. I’m not trying to suggest that the figures in my report include the new proposals. I’m not trying to argue that because it would be wrong.”
He added: “I accept what Mark Serwotka said in his letter.”
But that doesn’t mean he accepts that the unions are right to seize on the chart to argue against a fundamental shake-up of the pensions system.
Lord Hutton said the figures attacked by the unions are based on projections of what life expectancy and the size of the public sector will be up to 50 years from now – forecasts that may well prove to be wildly inaccurate.
They also assume that the “cap and share” reforms the unions negotiated in 2007 – which agree in principle to increasing employee contributions if the burden on the taxpayer reaches a certain threshold – will work in practice.
He said the unions “are placing too much confidence in figures we know by every precedent are unreliable”, adding: “I don’t think we should gamble taxpayers’ money over that period of time on a bet like that.
“There is no question that, if longevity keeps rising, retirement age will have to rise.
“My argument is: make the savings sooner. Are we prepared to wait 30 or 40 years to get to a sustainable balance? My reforms will bring the curve of the line down more quickly, and I think that will be a good thing.”
The verdict
We’ll have to give Lord Hutton’s earlier statement a Fiction rating, if only to put to bed once and for all the suggestion that the figures in his report take into account the current reform proposals.
That small victory for the unions doesn’t prove that they are right to say that the current pensions system is sustainable.
Making predictions now about what Britain’s public health and finances will look like as far ahead as 2060 is clearly a risky business, as shown by how dramatically researchers have underestimated rises in life expectancy when making predictions over the last 40 years:
By Patrick Worrall





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“That would appear to undermine the government’s case that pressing reform is needed, and add fuel to the unions’ argument that public sector pensions are already affordable and sustainable and should be left alone.”
Because a thing is affordable does not make it desirable. Should taxpayers in the private sector pay for employees in the public sector pay towards a pension plan they could never aspire to?
Just one additional comment, No company should have more than one pension scheme on offer, whether the the employee is managing director or the most junior employee. The public sector should be similar from the mandarins downwards, with no pension top ups for individuals
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“Public sector Pensions are better than private sector ones”. Well, that has been the argument in keeping wages lower in the public sector for decades.
No doubt the 15 or so more millonaires in the cabinet are lining up cushy jobs in banking when they end their political careers by letting the bankers who caused the crisis off lightly.
The issue isn’t about affordability or fairness but finding scapegoats so our leaders can live comfortable lives.
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There is absolutely no reasonably justification of this attack on pensions. As Abe Lincoln noted in 1864 in another context, a nation with sovereign control over its own currency can always meet its debts and that includes its pension debts. The unions are right to be incensed at this flagrant instance of gov bullying.
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“Making predictions now about what Britain’s public health and finances will look like as far ahead as 2060 is clearly a risky business . . .”
But equally true for Hutton as for the unions, surely?
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An Explanatory Memorandum given to Parliament in 2006 made it clear that the proposed changes to the Teachers’ Pension Scheme (TPS), which were accepted by the teaching unions, would be a “package of reforms [which] would deliver over £5b in savings over the long term, and thus secure the future sustainability of the TPS.” Note those words: “secure the future sustainability of the TPS”. Those words were spoken in 2006. Many members of the present government would have seen the Explanatory Memorandum. They know, then, that the changes which became effective in 2007 secured the long-term sustainability of the TPS. However, they seem to be suffering from collective amnesia and claiming that the TPS is unsustainable. No wonder unions are angry.
http://origin-www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/3122/pdfs/uksiem_20063122_en.pdf
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We all know this is just another way for the government to get money from middle and low income families while leaving the bankers and their other rich pals with their noses in the trough.
No matter how much they disrupt my life, I’m backing the strikers
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The fact that public sector pensions are generally better than private sector ones is no reason to drag the former down to the level of the latter. Shouldn’t we be looking at it the other way round and make private companies fork out for better pensions for their workers? Once pension rights are slashed it is unlikely they will be regained. Hardly progress for the 21st century.
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As usual, our lass, you are right. We are always hearing tories say that those of us who oppose high salaries are talking the politics of envy.
But when the gout-enlarged slipper is on the other foot…
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Superannuation always pays much more pension to the highest paid staff – relative to their career earnings – than to the lowest paid. Moreover, the top people are more likely to wangle early & ill-health pensions on generous terms.
Which is why the highest paid advise us all to prefer superann!
Nor does anyone know what their ‘final pay’ will be until they get there! Nor can employers know what liabilities they’re incuring.
What’s needed is a different scheme that provides a certificate of future pension rights earnt each year. And that grows in line with average earnings up to retirement. That would be fairer and more transparent than any superann could ever be.
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Nothing to do with this blog – But I hope you’ll keep an eye on what’s happening to the pledges to catch & deal with all the rioters. As this fades in the public memory, it starts to become the scene for political myth making, rather than a problem that is being tackled. It’s beginning to look as tho0ugh the people who’ve been charged/been before the courts in relation to the riots were primarily people the police already knew about & who were therefore relatively easy to identify. If the remainder aren’t pursued vigorously, it will be an interesting message sent out.
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Let’s put things into some sort of perspective. I was one of the lucky people who worked for a very good private company that provided a good contributory pension scheme and the very best deal you could get (as a working stiff, not a director) was that they would match your contributions up to a max, decided by the pensions board.
Now, just a very little research ( visit the CIVIL Service web site and look up NEW Entrants). You may very well be surprised to find that NEW Entrants are heavily advised on which pension choices to make.
The literature very carefully explains that you will be expected to pay 3.5% of you’re pensionable salary and WE THE TAXPAYER ( not the government ) will pay between 17.1% and 26.5%.
NOW. That’s a little different than 6% matched MAXIMUM
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OK An update is required. Since I posted my comment things have changed. I was having a conversation with a friend of mine about the subject. (a raving tory).To illustrate my point I whipped out my IPod. The website (which has been on my home page for months) is now defunct.
To carry out the minimal research now you will have to visit http://www.civilservice- pensions.gov.UK, and read, and read, and read. The result of the reading? Table 1 page 5 will tell you that the employer contribution rate has fallen. It’s gone down from 5 tmes the employee rate to 3 times.
That seems a little bit more like the real world, but I haven’t read the whole thing. It did however hand the debate to a raving Tory by default. Welcome to King Camerons world.
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Im a public sector worker, I also pay taxes…which also makes me a tax payer.
As a tax payer more of my taxes goes towards paying for the tax relief paid by the government on private sector pensions than on public sector pensions…far more in fact.
Yes some of my taxes go to pay for public sector pensions…but why shouldnt they, this includes The Armed Forces, Police Nurses and the Fire Brigade… the next time someone starts a war or breaks into your house, be grateful these people are there to protect you instead of bitching about paying towards their pensions.
Also…would someone define “gold plated pension” as opposed to a “pension”.
A nurse who has worked for 40 years and gets a pension of around 5-6 Thousand a year …fred the shred, a private sector worker gets more in annual pension thab the nurse earned in her entire career…
…i would suggest THAT is a starting point for any definition of “gold plated” pension
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