Cameron busted on debt claims
“We’re paying down Britain’s debts.”
David Cameron, 24 January 2013
The background
The Conservatives released their latest party political broadcast on Wednesday night.
The TV ad sees apparently ordinary members of the public asked to rate the government’s performance on paying off the deficit, cutting taxes and dealing with unemployment at the halfway point of the coalition.
Most people are fairly pessimistic and are then confronted with the supposed truth, FactCheck-style. The deficit has been reduced not by two or three per cent but by 25 per cent, for example.
David Cameron then tells viewers: “Though this government has had to make some difficult decisions, we are making progress. We’re paying down Britain’s debts…”
Stop right there. Because only a day before the broadcast was aired, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said government borrowing and the budget deficit were going up not down.
Labour have seized on the claim, with shadow chief treasury secretary Rachel Reeves writing to Andrew Dilnot, Chair [*See update at the bottom of the page]of the UK Statistics Authority, claiming that “the Conservative Party may be attempting to deliberately mislead the public about these statistics and the Government’s record”. Is that more spin, or is the Prime Minister really trying to pull the wool over our eyes?
The analysis
The Conservatives make two subtly different claims in this broadcast. The first is that the deficit has been reduced by a quarter on their watch. The second is the government is “paying down Britain’s debts”.
Let’s deal with the budget deficit first. This is the difference between the money the government spends and what it rakes in through tax receipts and so on over a certain period.
The government’s preferred measure is public sector net borrowing, excluding interventions in the financial sector. The 25 per cent reduction claim rests on a comparison the deficit of £121.6bn run up in 2011/12 and £159bn in 2009/10.
That is a fall of about a quarter (We make it 23.5 per cent exactly). But this is based on annual figures which are now out of date, and the gap between spending and borrowing has been growing not shrinking in recent months.
In December 2012 – the most recent month we know about – we were running a deficit of 15.4bn, £0.6bn higher than December 2011.
In the ninth-month period from April to December last year, net borrowing (excluding the one-off windfall when the government took over Royal Mail’s pension assets) hit £106.5bn, £7.2 billion more than the £99.3bn shortfall run up in the same period the previous year.
So there was a point when the government could claim to have reduced the deficit by about a quarter, but since then, things have been moving in the wrong direction.
Structural deficit
There’s another big reason why we shouldn’t get too excited about the 25 per cent reduction claim.
When the coalition came to power George Osborne promised to eliminate the “structural current deficit” by 2015-16. That’s what the deficit would be if the economy was working normally, with capital spending on schools, hospitals and so on stripped out.
This is not the same definition the Conservatives are talking about in the video. Treasury figures show the government only managed to reduce the structural current deficit by 13.2 per cent between 2009/10 and 2011/12.
Since making that promise in 2010 the Chancellor has admitted he will miss the 2015/16 target, and he now says the structural current deficit will be in balance by 2017/18.
Economists have also pointed out than half of the claimed deficit cut between 2009/10 and 2011/12 came from slashing investment rather than cuts in spending or an increase in tax revenues – a policy that could hurt jobs and growth.
Debt
It’s easy to confuse deficit and debt. Borrow more than you earn this year and you are running a deficit. Debt is the total amount you owe from all the previous years.
You can turn your tap down by 25 per cent – or 13.2 per cent – but the level of water still rises. And Britain’s national debt is rising.
Debt was £811bn around the time of the 2010 election, or 55.3 per cent of GDP. By December last year it had hit £1,111bn, or 70.7 per cent of GDP.
The national debt is forecast to hit 74.7 per cent of GDP this year and peak at 79.9 per cent in 2015-16, before falling slightly by 2016-17.
The verdict
The Tories’ answer? Their line about paying down the debt reflects the fact that they are “taking the difficult decisions to deal with the economic crisis that the government inherited, and we’re making progress towards that, with the deficit down by a quarter”, according to the Prime Minister’s spokesman.
It’s true that the government has cut the deficit, however you calculate it, although more slowly than predicted.
The big confusion here is the difference between deficit and debt.
National debt will rise for the next three years, on the government’s own predictions, so it’s difficult to say how Mr Cameron can truthfully say: “We’re paying down Britain’s debts.”
The spokesman insisted the Prime Minister did know the difference between debt and deficit. Let’s hope so.
[*Update: Andrew Dilnot, chair of the UK statistics authority, has written to Labour's Rachel Reeves and to Prime Minister's Chief of Staff emphasising the difference between debt and deficit. Mr Dilnot writes: "It is clearly important for all parties to public debate in this area to understand the relevant statistical definitions and to distinguish changes in the level of debt outstanding from changes in borrowing per period, and to reflect these in their communication of the statistical trends involved." Labour have called this development "hugely embarrassing for David Cameron". Read the letter here and decide for yourself.]
By Patrick Worrall



There are 18 comments on this post
Great analysis, to conclude we are not borrowing as much as previously year on year but our debt is constantly increasing. Surely this governments policy isn’t working & they should be focused on creating growth as the country enters a triple dip recession.
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Saj this has been going on since 2008 but what is worst the Tories have lied by about every aspect of the deficit, debt and end up like Greece by exploiting people’s economic illiteracy. You read the most read article last year for the simple evidence and facts by the IMF, OECD,ONS.OBR,The Treasury and in May 2010 George Osborne on video admitting he did not know the UK had the lowest debt in the G8 even though since 2008 he had been misleading the whole media that we hd the biggest debt in the world. Read 1000 words: Finally Exposed The Deficit Myth! David Cameron When Are You Going to Apologise? http://huff.to/QFYtKm via @HuffPost
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If, like me, you think that Party Political Broadcasts ought to be held to the same standards of truthfulness as ordinary adverts, complain to Offcom.
http://tinyurl.com/3y8rufy,complain
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Cathy/Patrick,
Wouldn’t it be interesting if there was a law against lying to the public while in public office……….
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This record of this government already show that they tell lies about everything to suit their political ends.
They are setting every sector of society against each other whilst making out that they are taking the “tough decisions” that will “save” the country. They justify the savage attacks they are making to the average man and woman and the cruel and inhumane cuts they are imposing on vulnerable and disabled people because they have to reduce what Britain owes.
Seems this once more is blatant lies.
But more importantly the consequences are food banks, homeless, suicides, businesses going bust and services being dramatically if not fatally axed.
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How does this compare to the performance of the government of Iceland since the moment they defaulted on their debts?
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Cameron lies to the public to try and secure votes. Cameron promises a referendum he doesn’t even know he’ll be in a position to deliver, also to try and secure votes. Cameron makes ‘cast iron’ guarantees to try and secure votes. Cameron promises no top down reform of the NHS. Cameron promises to protect the vulnerable and elderly from cuts. Cameron says ‘we’re all in it together’ although his lifestyle hasn’t changed in the last 3 years.
He’s the leader of the nasty party – does anyone still believe anything he says?
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The Tories have been overstating the deficit and debt since 2008. They have been exploiting people’s economic illiteracy They have lied about overspending, the deficit and debt prior to the recession and up to 2010. They have also exploited people’s illiteracy about the interest rate and the UK ending up like Greece. This has been conclusively exposed by Ramesh Patel a Tory economist – of all the people. Everyone in the country should read his article: Finally Exposed The Deficit Myth! David Cameron When Are You Going to Apologise? http://huff.to/QFYtKm via @HuffPost The evidence comes direct from the IMF, OECD, ONS,OBR, The Treasury and even George Osborne who admits it on video.
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Well done for keeping an eye on these slippery characters Cathy!
Being devious and economical with the truth is an unfortunate hallmark of this government.
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Not only this government, but all the political classes.
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I disagree with the definition of ‘debt’.
Last year both the IMF and World Bank said they could not understand why the 5th richest nation in the world was making all these cuts. The ‘Camellegg’ government is now trying hard to con and confuse any remaining voters that we have debt when we have deficit. This country owes no money to any other – that would be debt. We have deficit which is merely money borrowed against ourselves, which could be deemed fictional as on a temporary balance sheet.
After the war which was paid for by and from public finances Winston Churchill borrowed more money. He actively forced through the building of hospitals, houses, roads and turd works. In so doing employment was created, money was spent in the local economy, things started to move dynamically and lo and behold, the (then) far greater deficit disappeared in nine months ! From what i’ve been told there was even a modest surplus generated !
People are now feeling the disbenefit of what they voted for as there is no “plan B” as these multi-millionares have no clue as to really know what to do due to their dear lady of the 1980′s killing most of UK manufacturing industry.
Wake up…
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I think the Conservative government drew a pretty short straw when they won the election. Building hospitals and schools does not create money, it increases the debt. Somewhat short sightedly some have suggested that somehow this is a magic bullet i.e. More people in work more income tax collected. Since income tax will never take a full days pay, then the effect of using public money in this way is to increase debt .
The way out of this debt is to stop spending so much except where it increases exports. Everything should be thrown behind export export export and that is for the private sector to initiate
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“The spokesman insisted the Prime Minister did know the difference between debt and deficit. Let’s hope so.”
He didn’t know what the Magna Carta meant so I shalln’t hold my breath.
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At least it finally nails the lie about education in this country being about more than conferring on upper class buffoons a sense of superiority and excuse for their friends to pay them loads.
I watched this ad and in 2 seconds I’m like they are wrong.
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At worst Cameron lied to us, at best he either didn’t know what he was talking about or his advisors were inept! All in all a complete c*ck up!! Yet they are supposed to be the people in the know!!! Heaven help us all. When will ever be able to believe anything they tell us?
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On Sundays politics show on bbc2 grant shapps claimed the tories had reduced the deficit by one third ,Every body knows that this man could not lie straight in bed ,but how long are they going to keep getting away with bare faced lies. .
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They will keep getting away with it Mirror Man for as long as we don’t have an effective and competent opposition in Parliament!
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